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Chads93GT wrote:I always thought it strange that a left hand ascender would be on the right, and the right on the left.
Amazingracer wrote:The Croll and basic arent left or right handed ascenders.
reeffish1073 wrote:scott
would like to see a pic of your single bungee setup. am curious as to how it works. and to think this must be the setup for those big TAG pits, as i have never seen you use anything other than a texas system!
Chads93GT wrote:Single bungee's require a bungee cord that runs from the back center of your waist harness, over your left shoulder and down to your left ascender at your knee. Your right foot ascender is simply a pantin style ascender, which usually consists of a gibbs and a special made ankle harness, or a croll in a special ankle harness, or a home made harness consisting of webbing wrapped around the foot and ankle. This requires no bungee, hence the single bungee. When you are on the ground you can remove the bungee (encased in tubular webbing) from your shoulder and let it hang by your side as there is no need for it to be under tension.
As for only texas, if you come to tag with a texas system you will wear yourself out in no time. A friend of mine made that mistake and tried to texas out of Cagles at 186'. it took him 50 minutes and he was completely shot after that. Imagine doing 186' worth of 1 arm pullups.
Scott McCrea wrote:Amazingracer wrote:The Croll and basic arent left or right handed ascenders.
Basically, the Croll is a left hand ascender with the handle cut off and the shell bent a bit. Same with the Basic and the right hand ascender.
NZcaver wrote:Bottom line, personal preference is a wonderful thing. Try it the other way, and see which you like best.
Scott McCrea wrote:Chads93GT wrote:Single bungee's require a bungee cord that runs from the back center of your waist harness, over your left shoulder and down to your left ascender at your knee. Your right foot ascender is simply a pantin style ascender, which usually consists of a gibbs and a special made ankle harness, or a croll in a special ankle harness, or a home made harness consisting of webbing wrapped around the foot and ankle. This requires no bungee, hence the single bungee. When you are on the ground you can remove the bungee (encased in tubular webbing) from your shoulder and let it hang by your side as there is no need for it to be under tension.
Um, sort of. There are many different ways to set up a single bungee. My bungee runs from my right knee ascender over my shoulder to the left side of my harness. I have a homemade harness for the Basic on my left foot that sits erect enough to slide up the rope without being pulled up.As for only texas, if you come to tag with a texas system you will wear yourself out in no time. A friend of mine made that mistake and tried to texas out of Cagles at 186'. it took him 50 minutes and he was completely shot after that. Imagine doing 186' worth of 1 arm pullups.
My longest Texas system climb is 140', took about 20 min. Texas is all about technique, efficiency and gear optimization. But, anything over 100' is worth bringing a ropewalker for. A caver that is in good shape and very experienced with the system can boogie up some rope. I think it was Andy Porter that Texas-ed Fantastic many times.
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