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ek wrote:because the overall twist is now zero.
xcathodex wrote:* it's worth noting that there are two ways to tie an ABK: stealing the whimsical terminology from Life on a Line these would be the "twirly flop" (begun by forming a bight and twisting it one full turn)and the "finger poke" (begun by wrapping the rope around the hand). The diagram I refer to shows each Butterfly variant being tied using the former method. I, personally, am a twirly flopper.
potholer wrote:The double-twist method seems easier to use for tying knots with various lengths of loops, from traverse-line-short to long-Y-hang-long, but maybe that's partly because I didn't bother persevering with the hand-wrap method once my fingers learned the double twist method.
fuzzy-hair-man wrote:I found it reassuring that using twirly flops I found it actually harder to tie a false butterfly rather than an Alpine Butterfly the false butterfly tries to fall apart so you actually have to hold it together to tie it, which makes me certain I've tied the right one even before I inspect it.
fuzzy-hair-man wrote:If you wanted a false butterfly you could do the half hitch over the loop of a slip knot suggested earlier in this thread.
ek wrote:It's an asymmetric knot, you know
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