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Caver06 wrote:Sorry to offend those out there, but here is my gripe nonetheless. A first-time advertisement (at least in my 12+ years experience with NSS) on the back cover of the NSS News? Seriously? By none other than the NSS News Editor promoting his own publication?
Caver06 wrote:Problematic. It's been a showcase of DB's photos and artilces in the NSS News for way too many years now. Sure, they are of quality, but it does not represent the diversity of caves, cavers, regions, and scientific/philosophical perspectives out there. As far as the "lack of article submissions" argument is concerned, I've known several people who have submitted and been rejected outright.
Caver06 wrote:Sure, they are of quality, but it does not represent the diversity of caves, cavers, regions, and scientific/philosophical perspectives out there. As far as the "lack of article submissions" argument is concerned, I've known several people who have submitted and been rejected outright.
Caver06 wrote: A first-time advertisement (at least in my 12+ years experience with NSS) on the back cover of the NSS News? Seriously?
I just checked. Full page ads promoting caving equipment vendors were on the back cover of the NSS News on almost all issues up until the late 1990s, and sporadically thereafter until about 2005, when they were displaced by color photos. Most, if not all, issues of the Members Manual have full page ads right up until 2008.
Squirrel Girl wrote:Nice analogy, Gravelly. Thanks for posting it.
It's always hard to know whether something is bad and deserves to be cut. Or maybe it's a matter of taste, and bad luck. But I think you're right that people should strive for betterment and keep on trying. And if you can't succeed one way, try another. Didn't Coomer make his own calendar? Have people published locally in Grotto or Section newsletters? Were the pics well received? If so, then move on to bigger things. If they get 'ehhhh' responses, well, maybe there's room for improvement before trying for the "News."
Caver06 wrote:Sorry to offend those out there, but here is my gripe nonetheless. A first-time advertisement (at least in my 12+ years experience with NSS) on the back cover of the NSS News? Seriously? By none other than the NSS News Editor promoting his own publication? Problematic. It's been a showcase of DB's photos and artilces in the NSS News for way too many years now. Sure, they are of quality, but it does not represent the diversity of caves, cavers, regions, and scientific/philosophical perspectives out there. As far as the "lack of article submissions" argument is concerned, I've known several people who have submitted and been rejected outright.
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