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xcathodex wrote:His various arguments are dreadfully misguided, but I just don't have the energy to debate it. Of one thing I am certain: Never in my 30 years have I successfully convinced an old, crotchety person that the way they do things is wrong. Why try?
Squirrel Girl wrote:Am I mistaken or snooty to think this guy isn't worth too much bother? Is anybody really gonna read that stuff and believe it?
Does what this really mean is that Dave is desperate for some quality material for the Snooze?
xcathodex wrote:His various arguments are dreadfully misguided, but I just don't have the energy to debate it. Of one thing I am certain: Never in my 30 years have I successfully convinced an old, crotchety person that the way they do things is wrong. Why try?
NZcaver wrote:I'm tempted to agree with the recent replies, but let's be at least a little respectful of Mr Lipton himself even if we all disagree with his opinions. Although he's not an active member of this forum (to the best of my knowledge), I think we should assume that he IS a real person, a real caver, and probably a long-time NSS member.
Squirrel Girl wrote:Indeed, I am trying not to be snooty (and possibly not succeeding). But given that Mr. Lipton seems a little out of date, and perhaps not as actively caving as would be useful for making such broad and definitive statements as he has, is it really worthwhile make a big to do about disagreeing with him? Is it perhaps not more respectful to simply let it go?
NZcaver wrote:Perhaps you're right. We could just let the discussion die a natural death, but where's the fun in that?
Evan wrote:Well.....(in a french accent) , I carry a big light and it is rechargeable...........
Squirrel Girl wrote:I just responded to a long time cave diver who posted today that compared "real cave divers" to top notch maestro pianists, while non-real cave divers are very amaturish. The non-real ones have certifications but don't have that special je ne sais quoi.
hank moon wrote:Un homme sur les genoux n'a pas de place dans la la spéléologie.
I don't believe in backup lights. I believe in redundant lights.
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