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ek wrote:Having now done NCRC level 1 and level 2, I am wondering...why is it that we always coil our ropes, instead of packing them in bags like firefighters (and many cavers) do so that they can be easily deployed and are protected from the elements in the cave? Packing ropes in bags seems to be much more efficient than carrying them in coils, and for rescue use it seems to me that this efficiency would really come in handy.
ek wrote:why is it that we always coil our ropes, instead of packing them in bags like firefighters (and many cavers) do so that they can be easily deployed and are protected from the elements in the cave?
ek wrote:Having now done NCRC level 1 and level 2, I am wondering...why is it that we always coil our ropes, instead of packing them in bags like firefighters (and many cavers) do so that they can be easily deployed and are protected from the elements in the cave? Packing ropes in bags seems to be much more efficient than carrying them in coils, and for rescue use it seems to me that this efficiency would really come in handy.
johnlhickman wrote:One of our ropes had a break in the sheath that we identified and tied a butterfly in to isolate. This might not have happened if we were feeding out of the bag.
johnlhickman wrote:We have a lot of rope, and we aren't going to have the time to wash every rope after every trip into the cave.
wyandottecaver wrote:I also will voice a personal opinion, that UNLIKE hardware, excessive washing of ropes is both un-needed and in some cases detrimental. Certainly they should be washed when excessively dirty and they should always be clean enough to be inspected, but it certainly SEEMS that the effect of normal dirt and grime on ropes has a very negligible effect in their field use and lifespan with the major exception being in changing the shorrt term handling stiffness in extreme cases.
johnlhickman wrote:Finally, I never saw common sense on the NCRC check off list. A lot of people might have been in trouble if it had been manadatory.
ek wrote:johnlhickman wrote:Finally, I never saw common sense on the NCRC check off list. A lot of people might have been in trouble if it had been manadatory.
I thought common sense was an advanced technique that they teach you in Level 3...
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