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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby wyandottecaver » Jan 17, 2008 5:21 pm

Indiana also uses a similar system, where each cave has a cave index number but entrances are entered as individual records linked to the cave index number. having each entrance as a individual database record has been very useful in GIS applications and they can still be related to the cave by means of the cave index number.

I also updated the WY and KY numbers in the totals post on page 5
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby Mudduck » Jan 17, 2008 9:18 pm

The number I here thrown around for Mississippi is 32. WOO HOO!!
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby wyandottecaver » Jan 17, 2008 9:22 pm

MS added to list on page 5
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby Mudduck » Jan 19, 2008 8:38 am

Guess my super speed reading powers need a tune-up. Sorry :doh:
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby wyandottecaver » Jan 19, 2008 11:49 pm

lol I added the number you gave me to the previous post. it wasn't there the 1st time you read it :)
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby Mudduck » Jan 20, 2008 12:15 pm

dat makes me feel much better thank you :tonguecheek:
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby Aaron Addison » Jan 21, 2008 11:15 am

I have updated the map with the most recently reported numbers. Surely someone out there has some numbers for the western states.

Corrections also welcome.

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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby wendy » Jan 21, 2008 4:17 pm

Nice map!

NC has 1300 caves? I may be moving there this year. What part of the state are they in?
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby Scott McCrea » Jan 21, 2008 4:30 pm

wendy wrote:Nice map!

NC has 1300 caves? I may be moving there this year. What part of the state are they in?

Ah, but only a couple of dozen are what most would consider "caves". Lots of talus and fissure caves in the west. Short, crawly holes in the SE. A few pockets of limestone in the west also. The good caves are real good tho.
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby wyandottecaver » Jan 21, 2008 6:02 pm

I asked the USGS for the source information used in their teachers "scatter map" in my earlier post. They "didn't think that would be of value" but did point me to a excellent 1999 article which I am trying to follow up on, and to "an interesting discussion" here on cavechat! :rofl:

I guess the govt really does watch everything!...of course they probably did a google search.
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby George Dasher » Jan 22, 2008 1:41 pm

WV's seems a little high.

Are you sure we don't have 4379.

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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby wyandottecaver » Jan 22, 2008 5:11 pm

:shrug: dunno. just going by the numbers people throw out. is 4379 the number from the State Survey?

DUH! 1 more than virginia? :rofl:
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby NZcaver » Jan 22, 2008 9:21 pm

Aaron Addison wrote:I have updated the map with the most recently reported numbers. Surely someone out there has some numbers for the western states.

But... there aren't any caves out west... :shhh: :tonguecheek:
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby Evan G » Jan 22, 2008 9:44 pm

Aaron Addison wrote:I have updated the map with the most recently reported numbers. Surely someone out there has some numbers for the western states.


From what I have heard:

AZ- Has "No Caves" and the last time anyone saw one it was heading south
CO- Can't decide on what a cave "IS", so thus they don't exist.
NM- Is completely in the dark but there are rumors of "Deep Secrets"
MT- Are "deep" into decision but it is all in chineese
UT- Caves are apart of theocracy thus forbidden to be discussed outside the temple, like Pepsi
ID- Aka Spudnation is no longer apart of the nation because all the "I's" have it.
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Re: How many known caves in each state?

Postby wyandottecaver » Jan 24, 2008 9:00 pm

Well,
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Thanks to the generous help of the NSS Cave Files here are the numbers they have by State. The 2nd number after the / is the "cavechat" number we had. The Cave Files custodian cautioned that the NSS numbers are based on literature or documented references in the NSS archives and the cooperation of the State Surveys some of which often do NOT freely share data with the NSS. Since the NSS only keeps location data by county this seems somewhat absurd to me. Obvious differences between the NSS numbers and our informal survey are apparent. As are the similarities for some states. I would urge everyone who is knowledgeable about the cave data in their state to consider contacting the NSS Cave Files custodian, Dick Blenz at rblenz@indiana.edu with data on reported caves in their state....at least to the county level.

Sorry Wendy, guess NC only has 109 caves :tonguecheek:

STATE # OF
CAVES

ALASKA 510
ALABAMA 4306 / 4165
ARKANSAS 437
ARIZONA 575
CALIFORNIA 1807
COLORADO 583
CONNECTICUT 190
DELAWARE 3 / 1
FLORIDA 251 / 1300
GEORGIA 581 / 1600
HAWAI'I 1776
IDAHO 229
ILLINOIS 308
INDIANA 3423 / 3200
IOWA 498
KANSAS 412
KENTUCKY 1102 / 5200
LOUISIANA 7 / 1-10
MAINE 228
MARYLAND 179 / 150
MASSACHUSETTS 199
MICHIGAN 49
MINNESOTA 216
MISSISSIPPI 50 / 32
MISSOURI 2270 / 6210
MONTANA 349
NEBRASKA 5
NEVADA 185
NEW HAMPSHIRE 188
NEW JERSEY 87 / 100
NEW MEXICO 2156
NEW YORK 767
NORTH CAROLINA 109 / 1300
NORTH DAKOTA 4
OHIO 216
OKLAHOMA 508
OREGON 303
PENNSYLVANIA 1954 / 1500
RHODE ISLAND 4 / 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 173 / 500
SOUTH DAKOTA 138 / 325
TENNESSEE 9285 / 9000
TEXAS 5872
UTAH 357
VIRGINIA 4339 / 4378
VERMONT 227
WASHINGTON 473
WISCONSIN 367
WEST VIRGINIA 4740 / 4700
WYOMING 349 / 386
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