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erebus wrote:I thought this issue was brought up to eBay several years ago, and they agreed to prohibit sales of speleothems. Is my memory faulty?
pedenpeden wrote:If you go to eBay and put the item number 200061001348 in the search box, it brings up a page showing a large formation. The seller claims that it was taken from a New Mexico cave on private land.
wendy wrote:Is this the ebay auction for the 120 lb piece of cave popcorn? I have been reporting it to ebay every time they put it up for auction. Every week I get on ebay and report all the, as i see them, questionable cave formation sells. I don't think they can ban formations that were brought in from mexico, etc. But all the others I report on a weekely basis.
wendy wrote:Every week I get on ebay and report all the [cave formations], as i see them, Questionable cave formation sells. I don't think they can ban formations that were brought in from mexico, etc. But all the others I report on a weekely basis.
driggs wrote:
What exactly are the laws concerning caves in NM or on federally-owned caves like Carlsbad or Lech?
Teresa wrote:First you have to be able to define and recognize without a doubt what it is you are selling or not selling. As I stated before, I really don't think the courts are up to figuring out what rock specimens are cave specimens and vice versa.
A person would also have to convince the legislature how such a statue would affect the public good in order for them to be willing to fund enforcement and the personal property people would jump right on this out here, assuming it is some sort of anti-mining law.
In your hypothetical, what happens to acid mine drainage or in case of well drawdown depends a lot in what state you are in, and what water laws are in effect (which vary from state to state). In a lot of cases, there is no legal recourse other than civil lawsuit or legal negotiation for deprivation of resources, as there is no automatic penalty (at least in my state, which has poor groundwater law.)
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