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Chads93GT wrote:The dry rig point is 404'
The 438' rig point, or whatever the number is, 432, 436, I forget, is rigged from a natural bridge on the traverse to the dry rig point. While the lip at the dry point is a bit tricky, its an easier rig, and more comfortable area to sit and wait while others rappel and climb. The area where the bridge is located is small and by the looks of it, much more dangerous to rig than the dry rig point.
I think the major issue is, you have a choice at surprise to stay dry. You don't have a choice at incredible, unless you rig to the bolts further out on the ledge that I saw the one time I was at incredible 5 years ago.
Chads93GT wrote:FYI the "wet" rig point in surprise pit is not in the waterfall like incredible pit is. Its still 15-20' away. By time you get to the bottom you would be in the spray. Unlike in incredible where the most you can get out of the waterfall is what, 2 feet? 3 feet? by jamming the rope all the way into the other corner of the lip from the water spill point. Unless you went in during a rip roaring downpour, of course, if you did that, you would risk drowning in the passage just getting to the lip, and of course be in danger of being washed right over the drop to a 438' fall to your death..........if you weren't already drowned ;)
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