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Some biologists who view caves as holes where bats live(I'm quoting a USGS biologist) will get to trash cave ecosystems and shake some grant money out of the grant money tree.
CaverCSE wrote:I think it's time we added bylaws to our cave surveys stating: Anybody who is aiding and/or working for an agency that is intent on closing caves will be denied membership and denied any cave data voluntarily collected by cavers. Cavers didn't spend years of their lives collecting these data and perfecting the methods of low impact caving just to have it all used against them.
Tlaloc wrote:Secretive cavers have the last laugh here - they can still go caving in their secret caves.
The FCRPA is an example of the law of unintended consequences. Now the caves are protected but you can't go in them. The NSS shot itself in the foot by getting this law enacted.
Extremeophile wrote:...If anything, the closure policies ignore the mandate that the USFS needs to work with the caving community on cave management policy...
Tlaloc wrote:Extremeophile wrote:...If anything, the closure policies ignore the mandate that the USFS needs to work with the caving community on cave management policy...
What mandate is that? The MOU?
ohiocaver wrote:So...
Can we get an official rejoinder to this from NSS?
Can we get the Chair of each of the many, many grottoes in the region to draft a note protesting this proposal that flies in the face of all scientific evidence?
Can we get a campaign going from other areas of the country to do the same (if USFS gets away with this silliness in one region it surely will migrate to others)?
Can we get caver/representatives with a biology background to attend the hearing and refute the USFS claims?
Can we start a campaign in local newspapers -- weekly and daily -- to do same?
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