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caver.adam wrote:The hard part about this is that we want to try camping on shorter trips before moving on to much longer expeditions. Carrying that much gear for 1 night is a waste, but we would like experience on shorter trips before graduating to longer trips.
KeyserSoze wrote:I have also experimented with a micro bivvy. I used the sol emergency bivvy on an experimental cave camping trip and found that it did not work well at all. I was wearing a dry thermal shirt, thick wool socks, and wool pants. I woke up in less than a couple of hours freezing cold. The inside of the bag was covered in a film of condensed water which was intolerable. The problem I found is that it doesn't breath and allow the moisture from your body to escape.
jharman2 wrote:I can't over stress how important it is to reduce the volume of gear you carry.
jharman2 wrote:From my personal experience I'd strongly recommend the Thermarest NeoAir pad and the Mountain Hardware UltraLamina 32 sleeping bag. The UL 32 packs into a 4L nalgene for dry transport to camp. This combo is hard to beat in terms of comfort and size.
Scott McCrea wrote:jharman2 wrote:I can't over stress how important it is to reduce the volume of gear you carry.
This. Lightweight is fashionable these days, but low-volume increases your speleodynamics and increases your efficiency.
NZcaver wrote: Suggestion on the NeoAir, make sure you try one in store before you buy. They are nice and light, but sleeping on one is like sleeping on a giant bag of potato chips. NOISY. Some people are fine with that, others like me and many outdoors people I know just want to stab and burn the damn thing after one night trying to get to sleep.
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