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mabercrombie wrote:So.... This thread has gone on for 10 pages. Maybe it’s the cold medicine but 10 pages of discussion about the physical attributes of a particular caver is absurd. It’s a pretty well established fact that this particular caver THRIVES on attention, ANY kind of attention. Don't you think that 10 pages of forum discussion of somebody's tits is enough encouragement for another article? Hell if ya'll keep this up by next month maybe there will be a 20 page discussion on her tits and possibly another article in the N.S.S news featuring tits on rope!
I have not read the article, and if I do you can bet I won't be discussing it here. The best way to deal with people like this is to TOTALLY ignore them, just like any other Troll.
I think that the N.S.S News is probably hurting for content, which Amy is providing. I have helped produce my Grotto's newsletter for several years and can tell you first-hand how hard it is to get content for a newsletter. I can't imagine how much harder it is for Dave to scrape up enough material for a monthly magazine such as the N.S.S News. If we want to stop having articles about somebody's pendulous udders as they relate to caving, or at least spread out to every other month, there has to be more material available for publication.
I'll step off this here soap box now.
mabercrombie wrote:So.... This thread has gone on for 10 pages. Maybe it’s the cold medicine but 10 pages of discussion about the physical attributes of a particular caver is absurd.
Stan Allison wrote:As for two versus one ascender on rope. I do sometimes climb short handlines that I can free-climb by just attaching my croll to the rope and climbing. I always have two devices attached to a rope when performing changeovers either going up or down. I'm not concerned about ascenders failing or popping off when they are weighted and not being moved up or down the rope. My favorite unconscious pick-off technique is the counterweight method on a long cowstail as on page 277 of Alpine Caving Techniques. Step 7 of this technique does leave both myself and the patient suspended by one pre-weighted ascender until a rappel device is attached. If any of you don't feel comfortable hanging by just one ascender, please let me know and I will leave you hanging on rope unconscious if I should ever encounter you in this situation. We could refer to this is as a DNP order for a Do Not Pickoff order. To be safe, it might be best if you have a DNP order bracelet or tattoo on your chest.
shibumi wrote:...As a professional who has taught hundreds of people of all shapes and sizes vertical work with every system out there and many hybrids, and done many miles of vertical work from very deep pits and cliffs to deep in cave- wear your gear through mud and crap and get on and off rope frequently,...
shibumi wrote:...Amy's technique can be made to work. But it is not efficient, nor is it a good choice for someone with her body type. The article exhibits the classic signs of someone who has learned a little, but not enough, and I felt it was irresponsible for an article of that type to have been published in the News without some form of peer-review or alternate viewpoint published at the same time.
Tlaloc wrote:What you're using here is an argument of authority -
shibumi wrote:Tlaloc wrote:What you're using here is an argument of authority -
Yes I am, RESPECT MY AUTHORITAY!
Tlaloc wrote:shibumi wrote:Tlaloc wrote:What you're using here is an argument of authority -
Yes I am, RESPECT MY AUTHORITAY!
Respect can only be earned, not demanded and it's spelled "authority".
Tlaloc wrote:shibumi wrote:Tlaloc wrote:What you're using here is an argument of authority -
Yes I am, RESPECT MY AUTHORITAY!
Respect can only be earned, not demanded and it's spelled "authority".
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