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Postby laurieadams » Sep 15, 2011 10:55 am

OK, after reading many posts on this and other forums I must accept that I have been living in the 19th century, so please pardon my extreme ignorance and don't laugh too hard at my naive questions. I am not terribly computer literate, but I learn fast. I have produced many cave maps in the past, some have even won ribbons at NSS salons, but the methods I used are now considered ancient. I was a protractor and ruler plotter and a 2 dollar calculator data reducer. I now want to produce professional quality cave maps, without having to get too technical or invest a lot of money. It seems that the Compass software would work well for me, but I have a Mac and I understand that Compass is not compatible? Is this true. What if I acquired and downloaded Windows onto my Mac (I think I can do this), could I then use Compass? Is there another program that might be more suitable for me? I will be making maps of caves ranging from 50 feet to 6 miles. I'll have a zillion more questions, but we'll start with these. Thanks, Laurie Adams.
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby Marlatt » Sep 15, 2011 11:29 am

I spoke with Larry Fish several years ago about porting Compass to Mac, but at least at that time he wasn't particularly interested. However, I have run Compass on a Mac using Windows emulation (VirtualPC), and currently have it running on a dual-boot MacBook with Windows 7 installed. I don't know what hardware you are running, but you should be able to install Windoze onto any Intel-based Mac. (I tried to run Compass under OSX using WINE a couple years ago, with only partial success. It should be do-able, but I didn't have time to work at it)

Compass is a great program - I think you'll find it well worth your time to find an implementation!

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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby Phil Winkler » Sep 15, 2011 2:04 pm

Laurie,

Assuming your Mac is Intel based there is a program called Parallels that permits running Windows and Mac OSX at the same time. Mac provides Bootcamp which allows you to run either one, but not at the same time.

I recommend Parallels. Your Apple store or Bestbuy should have it.
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby bronzzhorse » Sep 15, 2011 2:17 pm

I use a program called Walls... very simple UI, and only a slight learning curve..... Might want to give it a shot.
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby Aaron Addison » Sep 15, 2011 4:35 pm

Phil Winkler wrote:...there is a program called Parallels that permits running Windows and Mac OSX at the same time


There is also a free VMware called http://www.virtualbox.org/ It was originally developed by Sun and now owned by Oracle. We have many students running WinXP and Win7 on their Macs with this tool.

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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby Phil Winkler » Sep 15, 2011 5:13 pm

AA, does it run at the time as OSx? I would like to try it, if so.
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby Aaron Addison » Sep 15, 2011 8:17 pm

If you mean at the same time as OSX, then yes. It should work very similar to Parallels or Fusion.

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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby laurieadams » Sep 16, 2011 7:18 am

Thanks everyone for the advice. My computer runs Mac OS X, Version 10.4.11 with a 2 GH2 Intel Core 2 Duo processor. So with parallels and Windows installed I should be able to use compass?
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby Phil Winkler » Sep 16, 2011 7:25 am

Aaron Addison wrote:
There is also a free VMware called http://www.virtualbox.org/ It was originally developed by Sun and now owned by Oracle. We have many students running WinXP and Win7 on their Macs with this tool.

Cheers,

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Laurie, I'd try this first since it's free.
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby laurieadams » Sep 16, 2011 8:58 am

I tried downloading the VM software, but it requires OS X 10.5 or higher. Can I upgrade without having to pay the 30 bucks they want for the software?
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby Tlaloc » Sep 16, 2011 9:06 am

laurieadams wrote:I tried downloading the VM software, but it requires OS X 10.5 or higher. Can I upgrade without having to pay the 30 bucks they want for the software?


You should upgrade to at least 10.6. It's worth the $30. This includes upgraded applications.
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby laurieadams » Sep 16, 2011 10:22 am

Thanks, Tlaloc, I will.
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby chac » Sep 16, 2011 2:06 pm

Laurie,

There is a lot of very good advice in this thread. The QRSS (Mexico) receives a good amount of Compass survey data from explorers and surveyors that use Compass on a Mac. The basic Compass features will work quite well with the most basic Mac>WIN software. However some of the mapping tools you can use with Compass are not at all happy if you use limited Mac>WIN software. :down:

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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby Martin Sluka » Sep 16, 2011 3:17 pm

Please don't loose your time, use therion! http://therion.speleo.sk

The software is not only about centerline and LRUD, but it is able to generate the 3D from passage outlines, passage heights, you may export many formats, check http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=skillen

This is the software for 21th century!!!
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Re: Compass on a Mac?

Postby lleblanc » Sep 16, 2011 4:09 pm

Martin Sluka wrote:Please don't loose your time, use therion! http://therion.speleo.sk

This is the software for 21th century!!!


Albeit with a mid-20th century interface!

Alas, as one of the Therion team member told me, revamping the interface is a low-priority task for them. In the meantime, you better be a script-savvy geek :(
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