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Chads93GT wrote:The gate can get loaded because "shit happens". Thats how. during a rebelay, during a changeover. crossing a nasty lip, simply not paying attention when you put your weight on the rack at the top of the drop. Just because a biner is designed to carry the load across the spine, and sit naturally on the top and bottom, doesnt mean it cant get turned sideways and have the gate loaded instead.
However, a rack can get positioned in such situations if you arent paying attention that the rack will act as a lever/fulcrum and pry the gate of the biner open. Locked or not. Then of course, there is always the quick disconnect of the rack and biner when the screw gate accidentally comes undone and you fall to your death.
Scott McCrea wrote:A while back we talked about rack attachments. Lots of good info there.
Thanks for doing the poll. Nice to see some actual numbers.
chh wrote:On the rare occassion I use a rack it's normally a biner because I can't stand having a 6 bar just hanging off the front of my harness.
On even rarer occassions I've used a 90 degree locking clevis for my rack. It's smaller than both biner and screwlink, turns the rack the right way, and can be removed without a wrench. However, the clevis, like most, is two pieces. And they are small and I worry about dropping them, so I've only used it on a big, in cave drop, where that is the only pitch I'm really going to want the variability of the rack. And I keep a biner around just in case. Needless to say the opportunities to use said clevis have been very few. I used it in Ellison's and then I wanted to use it in Fern, but forgot the clevis and my pantin, so I just used a biner. Use it frequently at work though, but it is attached or unattached on the ground and then placed back in the truck. No changing it at height, it stays on the saddle. Still, it's pretty cool...
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