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tncaver wrote:Closing of mass numbers of caves to EVERYONE also puts a lot of pressure on the few caves that are open or in this case, unsupervised.
Government seems to have a knack for doing everything wrong these days. Cavers also need to get out of their rut and become proactive
with Congress and all agencies ABOVE the USFWS. After all, the USFWS answers to higher powers that we as voters and citizens are supposed
to have influence over. Frankly the reason government works so poorly these days is because the masses provide so little input. 10,000
cavers COULD make a considerable influence if they would just speak up to those who make laws and regulations.
BrianC wrote: Actually there are no voting conditions that could affect the federal environmental organisations in our country, rather the positions are appointed and have no accountability to the public! They simply Don't Care what we think! The only possible effective strategy is getting the American public on our side through the mass media. Unfortunately, the large mass media groups are already controlled by the federal regulators. We are screwed unless we can prove that humans do not spread WNS period! No less could possibly work period!
Scoon1 wrote:I'm laughing about the 'Closing caves' statement. Like the general public even knows what is going on. The only people that I know that stay out of 'closed caves' are cavers. Everybody else is still going in there. I agree with Steve. A stronger caver presence is an excellent way, not only to monitor, but to influence and inform the 'Spelunker' population.
That would be a great idea. I'll contact newspapers in my area and try and get more national ones. I don't mind searching for folks to cover it. Just tell me who I should be telling them to contact, like if you can PM me your info, Steve, and maybe others who were on that trip.LukeM wrote:Steve, is anyone suggesting this story to the press as something to cover? It seems to have the elements of a good news story: world's largest gray bat habitat, a national wildlife crisis, and a the government making things worse. Scandalous.
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