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Creationism best explains Bone Cave

Postby Cheryl Jones » Jun 22, 2007 12:21 am

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Creationism best explains Bone Cave
Cumberland Times-News
Garrett Humbertson

Little has been made of the Cumberland Bone Cave lately, but the controversy surrounding it is ongoing and very significant. I was surprised to discover that the trail behind my back yard, the Allegheny Highlands Trail, runs beside the cave. Excited about the find, I researched its history...

.....The cave appears to have been descending at about a 45-degree angle. Nicholas and evolutionists believe that animals fell into this hole, and waters from a hypothetical, nearby stream deposited silt and clay at the former mouth of the cave. This explanation is unacceptable.....

......Then there is the question of how some animal species ended up in the cave in the first place. How did things like grizzly bears and crocodiles get there? These animals are not native to Cumberland. What about the African eland? Did it happen to swim across the Atlantic Ocean, only to fall into a hole in some mountain? What of the sea creatures reportedly found fossilized in rock near the bone cave? That rock is nearly 1,000 feet above sea level, and perhaps 300 or more above local creeks and rivers. With the local drainage, a localized flood scenario is unthinkable.

Benjamin Cooper, a local soil expert, theorizes that a flood was responsible for this site and backs up his view with true science.......

.......The Evolutionary Theory cannot be viewed as science. True science must be capable of being observed, demonstrated and repeated. Evolution has never been all of these under any circumstances. It’s weak both logically and scientifically.

Read it all here
http://www.times-news.com/opinion/local ... ndarystory
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Postby Scott McCrea » Jun 22, 2007 6:04 am

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Postby Stridergdm » Jun 22, 2007 6:33 am

Exactly.

And unfortunate.

Almost might be worth taking the kid caving with a decent speleologist and see if some knowledge could be transferred.
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Postby MUD » Jun 22, 2007 7:22 am

I don't know what to say about that...so I'll agree with Scott.... :sadbanana:
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Postby subter » Jun 22, 2007 8:53 am

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Postby l lambert » Jun 22, 2007 9:21 am

In his own words.........."This explanation is unacceptable."
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Postby JoeyS » Jun 22, 2007 9:33 am

Most of the fossils found are from rodents which would have been able to climb out of the hole. Many rodents can ascend even a completely vertical hole.


The only thing useful I took from this:

Biblical rodents were the first vertical cavers :exactly:
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Postby hank moon » Jun 22, 2007 11:37 am


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Postby Steven Johnson » Jun 22, 2007 1:05 pm

No, I didn't bother to actually RTFA beyond the first sentence or two... but I just have to wonder it must be really *tough* to be a creationist geologist.

I mean, what's the theory... "Sure, it looks like it took hundreds of thousands of years for this formation to form, but it's really only 6000 years old; it was just created to *look* like it was much older..."

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Postby George Dasher » Jun 22, 2007 1:45 pm

I think I'm misjudging how important this subject is...




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Postby Ralph E. Powers » Jun 22, 2007 3:23 pm

George Dasher wrote:I think I'm misjudging how important this subject is...




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Postby Scott McCrea » Jun 22, 2007 4:12 pm

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Postby MUD » Jun 22, 2007 11:21 pm

:shock: :doh: :hairpull: :notlistening: :question: :whistle: :crazy:

and one for his side..... :pray:

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Postby thermopyle » Jun 23, 2007 12:52 am

Bone Cave is a neat place to see flowstone completely exposed outdoors. Some of the walls are still there up the slope from the railbed. Must have been a nice little cave before the railroad blasted through.

But what's left of the cave now is about 6 feet at the very back, and someone invested in a huge iron gate to block off that 6 whole feet.
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Postby KENTO » Jul 31, 2007 1:10 pm

The thing I least understand about the need some Christians have to continually prop up their strange pseudo-scientific arguments for a 6,000 year old earth, is it seems they are fearing they will lose their faith and/or their souls if they will admit to a more ancient earth. Tell you what, every time I hear of a new revelation some archaeologist or paleontolgist or astronomer has discovered revealing another piece of the puzzle , I don't feel threatened. Instead I think what an amazing and INFINITELY beautiful planet we live on in an amazing universe. This just might be the garden of Eden right here and now. You don't have to stop singing God's praises and you don't have to stop praying in Jesus' name. I mean what if there really is a God and evolution was the way God brought us to today, no less a miracle, no less awesome is it? And it all started with a really BIG BANG!!!!
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