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Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jun 29, 2018 3:25 pm
by ohiocaver
This links to a good local look at a cave rescue problem that continues. Anmar (chair of the NSS’s NCRC) gave a great interview.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... -so-tricky

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 2, 2018 1:09 pm
by ohiocaver
GREAT NEWS: all are found, all safe :banana_yay:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44688909

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 2, 2018 6:42 pm
by Flatlander
Great news indeed. But they (the kids and coach) are still in dire straits. I've understood they can't swim.

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 3, 2018 8:13 am
by CaverScott
Please post any updates regarding how they plan to feed and keep them warm or how they plan to actually rescue them from the cave.

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 3, 2018 1:24 pm
by newcaver315
pretty scary, reading articles theyre talking they may be down there for awhile unless they can find an alternate entrance and path to them. glad theyve been located got food and medical attention but rains could keep that cave flooded for the better part of the summer. i guess theyre either going to hope for another route out or the kids will be learning some scuba diving skills and going back the same way they came in... great job by rescuers finding them hope they make it out soon.... any idea of how mapped out the cave is or is pretty uncharted?

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 3, 2018 1:54 pm
by CaverScott

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 3, 2018 2:19 pm
by chac
There are maps of the Tham Luang cave here:
https://www.thailandcaves.shepton.org.uk/longest-caves

Food and medics are now onsite with the kids. Unfortunately none of the kids know how to swim, much less dive. It is a ~3 km swim out with some very restricted passages (diving equipment removed to pass the restrictions?). Apparently there is also some vertical work to do in one of the sumps. As the kids are very young, a diving mask to fit a child's face is probably a scarce item in Thailand. A full face mask for 8 year-olds is a scarce item anywhere. A full face mask may be the safest means to get them out, one by one. Keep in mind these guys are hungry and probably weak.

The other option is to set up camp for 4 months in the cave. The Brits and the Thai Navy Seals know where the kids are. Swimming a young kid out in zero visibility for 2-3 km, at depth, is risky. Keep in mind that the cave is dry, and flooded each rainy season. So once open passages can get clogged with silts and debris. That is tough stuff to pass through in underwater zero visibility. I am sure a command decision will be made soon (bring them out or keep them safe in the cave). More rain and rising water levels are forecast.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/10139068 ... 40/video/1

Jim

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 3, 2018 9:56 pm
by Squirrel Girl
chac wrote:There are maps of the Tham Luang cave here:
https://www.thailandcaves.shepton.org.uk/longest-caves

Food and medics are now onsite with the kids. Unfortunately none of the kids know how to swim, much less dive. It is a ~3 km swim out with some very restricted passages (diving equipment removed to pass the restrictions?). Apparently there is also some vertical work to do in one of the sumps. As the kids are very young, a diving mask to fit a child's face is probably a scarce item in Thailand. A full face mask for 8 year-olds is a scarce item anywhere. A full face mask may be the safest means to get them out, one by one. Keep in mind these guys are hungry and probably weak.

The other option is to set up camp for 4 months in the cave. The Brits and the Thai Navy Seals know where the kids are. Swimming a young kid out in zero visibility for 2-3 km, at depth, is risky. Keep in mind that the cave is dry, and flooded each rainy season. So once open passages can get clogged with silts and debris. That is tough stuff to pass through in underwater zero visibility. I am sure a command decision will be made soon (bring them out or keep them safe in the cave). More rain and rising water levels are forecast.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/10139068 ... 40/video/1

Jim


As I understand it, the entire distance is not flooded. Just sections. I've reviewed a lot of stuff on news sites and FB, etc, so I don't recall exactly where I saw that. It makes sense, though.

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 6, 2018 11:15 am
by poppol
Bad news, ex-navy diver dies on oxygen supply mission

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44734385

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 7, 2018 3:55 pm
by trogman
It seems things are not getting any better, with word that the oxygen in the chamber where the boys are is getting low. I presume the sumps are cutting off the airflow, although most caves I am familiar with have at least some cracks and crevices that connect at a higher level, or even to the mountainside up above. So I was surprised to learn that the oxygen is getting depleted.
I sure do hope and pray they find a way to get them out safely, and hopefully soon.

Trogman :helmet:

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 8, 2018 9:45 am
by newcaver315
good news four out as of now! glad to see some safe hope it goes smooth and all make it out! https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/worl ... dates.html

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 9, 2018 7:31 am
by CaverScott
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/asia/tha ... index.html

Rescuers working at a cave site in northern Thailand have brought four more boys out of the flooded cave system Monday, according to a witness working with the rescue team, leaving four boys and their coach still inside.

The first boy to emerge Monday was seen on a stretcher just before 4:30 p.m. local time (5:30 a.m. ET). He was taken by helicopter and ambulance to the same hospital in Chiang Rai where the first four boys rescued Sunday by a team of international and Thai dive experts are being treated.
Two more boys left the Tham Luang Nang Non cave complex a short time later and were transferred to a medical facility on site, followed soon after by a fourth boy, according to the eyewitness, who is stationed at the entrance to the cave.

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 9, 2018 7:33 am
by CaverScott
20 min ago
Thai cave evacuation operations have completed for the day, eyewitness says
From CNN’s Jo Shelley and Kocha Olran

Operations to remove boys and their coach from the cave in northern Thailand have completed for the day, according to an eyewitness who is part of the rescue operations stationed at the entrance of the cave.

The total number of boys pulled from the cave Monday is four, following the four that were pulled Sunday.

Four boys and their coach remain in the cave.

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 9, 2018 8:00 am
by CaverScott

Re: Thai Rescue

PostPosted: Jul 10, 2018 6:09 am
by tmazanec1