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George Dasher wrote:I think we've gone "off thread..."
We're discussing medical protocols, etc., when the original thread regarded being comfortable with the cave environment.
You can really know your stuff medically, but if you're freaked out by the environmental the patient is in, you're not going to be very effective. Put another way, you can't help the patient if you have trouble with the low crawl or the confusing breakdown to get to him.
And, to be truthful, we're all going to be freaked out by some kind of environment. We can't be "good" in all of environments, or in all emergencies.
We had a rescue in West Virginia in the early 1070s.
So let's be honest, caving ain't for everyone, and sometimes being comfortable with the environment is more important than medical protocols.
james huffaker wrote:This is put forth as an honest question as I don't have much training or experience in caves (yet), but are there any unique conditions or potential scenarios that exist in caves that don't exist in say SAR or high angle rescue that would require specialized training and modification of existing wilderness protocols to allow the medic to render the best care available to their patient(s)?
james huffaker wrote:Gents, Re comms, standing orders work when comms are down. Do any of the teams have an MD on them?
james huffaker wrote:.... but are there any unique conditions or potential scenarios that exist in caves that don't exist in say SAR or high angle rescue that would require specialized training and modification of existing wilderness protocols to allow the medic to render the best care available to their patient(s)?
Yes, BLS before ALS and the simplest solution if frequently the best solution.
Regards, Jim
james huffaker wrote:Sir, Thank you very much for your patience in putting up with me and for your candor in answering my questions. I recognize that I'm new here as well as to caving in general and certainly to cave rescue and should probably shut up and learn before putting forth my opinions, I apologize to all. My enthusiasm for the subject overwhelmed my judgment. Regards, Jim
james huffaker wrote:Gents and Ladies(?) Good afternoon. I'm glad to see the thread still alive!
....or vet skills for the animals....
Regards, Jim
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