Official PMI Statement on 10% Bleach: NOT FOR WNS DECON

[Bill Putnam]

Do your own homework and stop looking on Cavechat and the Internet for easy answers, you lazy bastards.

That's GREAT!! I should steal that and use it for a signature line!

p.s. Please stop wasting my electrons asking and arguing about this: you are contributing to global warming.

Probably true, but some people have been emitting a lot of hot air themselves recently...

Hot air is good for the sick bats - it may inhibit Geomyces growth.

[Carl Amundson]

Big picture:
Don't use bleach on your vertical gear for WNS decon...

[Bill Putnam]

Big picture:
Don't use bleach on your vertical gear for WNS decon...

Or at least, not on your ropes.

[Carl Amundson]

Big picture:
Don't use bleach on your vertical gear for WNS decon...

Or at least, not on your ropes.

or your harness...

[erebus]

I have obviously hurt your feelings. I am sorry. I did not mean to do that. Jansen was right and I dialed back my comments and edits. They were over the top. I was trying to be funny and to get you to lighten up. I did not do a good job at that.
. . .
Let's kiss and make up,
Bill

p.s. And no pouting. Let's get together and have a beer or something in Indiana.
Ground rules: No talk of WNS or speleo-politics.

Well, there goes my vote. I've been reading your comments, and that is one of the most condescending 'apologies' I've ever seen. Good work, if that's what you wanted to do. I suspect it isn't.

[Bill Putnam]

[This post has been edited to make Daniel and Jansen happy by correcting my erroneous statement about no smileys. The original post did have the kiss and make up smileys. I went back and changed it trying to be nice, but that made things worse. Now I have to add this disclaimer and change it again. This time I have highlighted the changes.This is getting out of control. What are we coming to? I hope I do not have to do this again in a few minutes. It's quitting time.]

Well, there goes my vote. I've been reading your comments, and that is one of the most condescending 'apologies' I've ever seen. Good work, if that's what you wanted to do. I suspect it isn't.

Daniel (aka Erebus),

I'm sorry you feel that way. It was not intended to be condescending. I was and am serious. That's why there were no smileys. That's why there were no smileys in the body of the post. I tried to be light-hearted and upbeat about it, but perhaps that was not appropriate. It was intended as a peace offering and an overture of friendship to Eliah. I guess public aplologies have gotten more difficult to get right these days.

I'll try again:

Eliah,

I am sorry I offended and disrespected you. I was only kidding and did not mean to. Will you forgive me?

Bill

Regarding your vote, Daniel, I encourage you to vote your conscience. If you feel my personality is an important issue, and you don't like it, and you feel I would be detrimental to the success of the NSS, don't vote for me.

Bill

[Chads93GT]

Not to get off topic, but some of you guys are way too sensitive and get your e-feelings hurt awfully easy....

[Bill Putnam]

Can't we all just get along?

[erebus]

I'm sorry you feel that way. It was not intended to be condescending. I was and am serious. That's why there were no smileys.

But there were smileys - kissing ones. I'm sure they were there, because I took the trouble to take them out of the quote, just as you must have gone back and taken them out of your post, along with the "kiss and make up" remark. Now you've gone from condescension to something else. What do we call it when a politician denies having said something, and a video of him saying it shows up? There's a word for that ...

[Chads93GT]

The word you are looking for is "Obama"


As for smileys, jokes, etc. Some people arent very good at sensing tone, sarcasm, joking and sincerity in text based posts on forums.

[kevinpsarianos]

Eliah,

Thanks for all your work on decon issues related to WNS, and the apparently harder job of holding off the misinformation coming out on the issue.
Please continue as you have by sticking to the facts of the matter, disseminating information as you get it, and fighting the ‘whack-a-mole’ battle against misleading info.

Kevin Psarianos
24203

[NZcaver]

I'm sorry you feel that way. It was not intended to be condescending. I was and am serious. That's why there were no smileys.

But there were smileys - kissing ones. I'm sure they were there, because I took the trouble to take them out of the quote, just as you must have gone back and taken them out of your post, along with the "kiss and make up" remark. Now you've gone from condescension to something else. What do we call it when a politician denies having said something, and a video of him saying it shows up? There's a word for that ...

Hey Bill,

Erebus called you out on that one. I remember seeing the kissy smiley there too. But it's gone now. You'd better come clean and fess up!

[Bill Putnam]

I'm sorry you feel that way. It was not intended to be condescending. I was and am serious. That's why there were no smileys.

But there were smileys - kissing ones. I'm sure they were there, because I took the trouble to take them out of the quote, just as you must have gone back and taken them out of your post, along with the "kiss and make up" remark. Now you've gone from condescension to something else. What do we call it when a politician denies having said something, and a video of him saying it shows up? There's a word for that ...

Yes, you are right! - I was going too fast and trying to jump back and forth between forums and I made a mistake I did have the kissing smileys and I did take them out, when I took out the "lets' kiss and make up" closing that you apparently felt was sarcastic (though I did not intend it to be - it was just a joke), because they no longer made sense. Should I put them back? I meant no smileys in the serious remarks in the body of the post. Are all smileys sarcastic? How are kissing smileys sarcastic? Now Daniel is calling me a cheater and a hypocrite and Jansen is calling me out again!! I did not think that kissy faces and that closing would be considered sarcastic or condescending, but apparently they were. I'm sorry again! (Will he think this is sarcastic too? Will this never end? How do I get out of this loop? I'm really truly sorry!) I can't believe I am spending this much time and taking this much effort to apologize for this and make you guys happy! What is wrong with me? Was that mean, too?

No condecension intended, then or now.
No sarcasm intended, then or now.
No insult intended, then or now.




Bill

[Bill Putnam]

Eliah,

Thanks for all your work on decon issues related to WNS, and the apparently harder job of holding off the misinformation coming out on the issue.
Please continue as you have by sticking to the facts of the matter, disseminating information as you get it, and fighting the ‘whack-a-mole’ battle against misleading info.

Kevin Psarianos
24203

Now I am a misinformation mole as well! Or is that mole of misinformation? Would that mean I have made 6.02x10^23 erroneous statements on Cavechat? It sure feels that way.....

[Bill Putnam]

The word you are looking for is "Obama"


As for smileys, jokes, etc. Some people arent very good at sensing tone, sarcasm, joking and sincerity in text based posts on forums.

Maybe Daniel got up on the wrong side of the cave this morning. And I am starting to think that Jansen is losing his sense of humor, and that is the main thing I love about him. It's certainly ain't his good looks and his dancing skills.

OK guys, can we kiss and make up now?