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It'd be pretty hard to arrange to explore a private cave that's out of state.
PYoungbaer wrote:Re: U.S. Forest Service cave closures: Only Region 2 continues it's blanket closure for the region. In Regions 8 and 9, closures are done by specific forest service unit, such as Monongahela National Forest in West Virginia, Hoosier in Indiana, Mark Twain in Missouri. There are no other regional blanket cave closures. In New Mexico, the National Forest units there collaborated with other state, federal, and local entities, including cavers, in developing a cave-specific closure list targeted significant bat caves. Details on all of this may be found on the NSS' WNS website.
That may be true out west, but here in the east there are lots of very nice private caves. I live in Indiana and make arrangements with private landowners in TAG all the time. I have found that white pages.com can be your best friend. I have lots of old guidebooks and speleo digests and read about a cave I am interested in. Sometimes these sources will give the name of a landowner.I then go to white pages.com and type in landowner name and the nearest town to the area of the cave. Once that comes up you can get a map to the house and of course the phone #. Also if there is a cave out of your area you are interested in you may have some luck contacting grottos close to that area by using the grotto info in The NSS members manual. Also if you look at the map of the cave you may see names of the guys who mapped it and contact them via The NSS Members Manual. I have found if you contact most cavers they will help you, you may run into a few jerks but for the most part unless the cave is currently being surveyed you should have good luck contacting cavers in that area. If it is a case of the landowner not wanting visitors most local cavers will let you know.SuckinOnSodaStraws wrote:Im sure many of the best caves are on National Forest land... Are all the Forest Land caves closed in the U.S.? It'd be pretty hard to arrange to explore a private cave that's out of state. Hard, but not impossible...
Teresa wrote:PYoungbaer wrote:Re: U.S. Forest Service cave closures: Only Region 2 continues it's blanket closure for the region. In Regions 8 and 9, closures are done by specific forest service unit, such as Monongahela National Forest in West Virginia, Hoosier in Indiana, Mark Twain in Missouri. There are no other regional blanket cave closures. In New Mexico, the National Forest units there collaborated with other state, federal, and local entities, including cavers, in developing a cave-specific closure list targeted significant bat caves. Details on all of this may be found on the NSS' WNS website.
True, but once you are on the Mark Twain, it is blanket closures to all except for the anointed ones.
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