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John Lovaas wrote:For what it's worth, Mammoth Cave NP has the most logical and reasonable visitor/caver decon procedures of any management agency in the US.
In a nutshell- Decon your gear(if it has been used in another cave) before you visit a cave in the park, decon your gear between the park's caves(unless they are in the same ridge), and decon your gear after your visit to the park, and stay out of colonial caves.
Seems reasonable to me.
tncaver wrote:
"Because human-assisted spread of G. destructans is one of the documented
means by which WNS is disseminated to uninfected areas,"
Has that been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by anyone? Documented? Unless I missed something, that is still speculation.
PYoungbaer wrote:tncaver wrote:
"Because human-assisted spread of G. destructans is one of the documented
means by which WNS is disseminated to uninfected areas,"
Has that been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by anyone? Documented? Unless I missed something, that is still speculation.
It has not been documented. It has not been proven.
BrianC wrote:Though no facts provide evidence that humans have transmitted WNS, the longer that the misinformation is allowed to be published, the more qualified the misinformation will become!!!!!
Any caver want to stop this?
tncaver wrote:BrianC wrote:Though no facts provide evidence that humans have transmitted WNS, the longer that the misinformation is allowed to be published, the more qualified the misinformation will become!!!!!
Any caver want to stop this?
Sometimes it seems as if most cavers don't give a squat whether they get to cave on public land again in their lifetime.
So how do we stop this BS from being repeated over and over?
To date, evidence suggests that WNS is transmitted by two routes.
... it can be concluded with near certainty that WNS was brought into the cave by bats and propagated bat-to-bat.
... the long distances noted between affected caves in New York (2008) and in southern Virginia (2009), or from Virginia to Tennessee, Missouri and Oklahoma in 2010, are beyond the flight ranges affected bat species move in a single year. This suggests that G. destructans was brought into the site by humans that had visited infected caves elsewhere.
muddyface wrote:The "big jump" argument that humans spread the fungu is the only real possible evidence that makes any sense, and if G. destructans is native to Europe, how the heck did it get over to the states? (the live bat in a shipping container story seems like a possible scenario). However, I would like to know if other states besides New York were conducting WNS surveys in the winter of 2006-2007, because Schoharie and Albany counties do not encompass the entire maximum annual flight range of bats. So I believe the disease had already spread much further the New York and bordering states by the winter of 2007-2008, it just was not documented yet. So in reality, the "big jump" that seems to have been made possible by humans did not happen.
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