LA Times on WNS

This is a forum intended only for discussion of White Nose Syndrome.

Moderator: Moderators

LA Times on WNS

Postby PYoungbaer » Apr 4, 2011 12:19 am

LA Times' Pulitzer Prize Winner Louis Sahagun does a good job with this story. BLM says it needs cavers to help monitor caves on vast expanses of land:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-bat-plague-20110403,0,1619878.story
PYoungbaer
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 1365
Joined: Apr 30, 2008 4:04 pm
Location: Plainfield, VT
NSS #: 16161 CM FE
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Vermont Cavers Association
  

Re: LA Times on WNS

Postby Teresa » Apr 4, 2011 8:46 am

As good a job in the plus direction as the Photographer's Journal story based on the same trip is a crappy one.
Still not very pro-caver, though. We're sort of ignored.

Teresa
Teresa
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 1413
Joined: Dec 31, 2005 9:06 pm
  

Re: LA Times on WNS

Postby nathanroser » Apr 4, 2011 9:22 am

I looked through the comments and someone proposed the rather ridiculous idea of killing all bats in infected caves and then spraying fungicides everywhere. Definitely would not work to prevent the spread since there are so many caves out there, plus whatever government or private agency that would do such an extermination would have too few people, and no cavers would actually be willing to carry out a crazy plan like that.
User avatar
nathanroser
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 371
Joined: Feb 6, 2011 12:44 pm
Location: Syracuse, NY
Name: Nathan Roser
NSS #: 62848
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Syracuse University Outing Club
  

Re: LA Times on WNS

Postby LukeM » Apr 4, 2011 9:33 am

muddyface1.21 wrote:I looked through the comments and someone proposed the rather ridiculous idea of killing all bats in infected caves and then spraying fungicides everywhere. Definitely would not work to prevent the spread since there are so many caves out there, plus whatever government or private agency that would do such an extermination would have too few people, and no cavers would actually be willing to carry out a crazy plan like that.


The idea of culling the bat population (but not necessarily using fungicides) did have some proponents early on in the WNS epidemic. Obviously it's too late now to even consider the idea.
User avatar
LukeM
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 705
Joined: Jan 30, 2008 2:53 pm
Location: Albany, NY
Name: Luke Mazza
NSS #: 59317
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Syracuse University Outing Club
  

Re: LA Times on WNS

Postby nathanroser » Apr 4, 2011 9:40 am

I would say the best bet for treating or curing the disease is searching for some sort of virus that preys on G. destructans. A similar method has been used to try and treat chestnut trees with the blight, but it requires injecting the virus into every infected knob and does not protect the whole tree. If a virus that attacks the fungus can be found or created, it should be tested to make sure it is not harmful to the bats, and if it works then it could be introduced to both infected and non-infected populations at the then current frontier of the disease so as the fungus spreads, the virus would as well.
User avatar
nathanroser
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 371
Joined: Feb 6, 2011 12:44 pm
Location: Syracuse, NY
Name: Nathan Roser
NSS #: 62848
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Syracuse University Outing Club
  

Re: LA Times on WNS

Postby wyandottecaver » Apr 5, 2011 4:33 pm

depends on where you are Luke. For IN yea it's too late. For OK? maybe not, but I agree the odds of success have gone way way down.

As far as finding a "good" virus or fungus,that approach has been used widely in the natural resources field and is now widely discouraged. It has had some great success and many many great failures. Too many cases of unintended effects.
I'm not scared of the dark, it's the things IN the dark that make me nervous. :)
User avatar
wyandottecaver
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 2902
Joined: Aug 24, 2007 8:44 pm
Location: Indiana
  

Re: LA Times on WNS

Postby self-deleted_user » Apr 5, 2011 4:42 pm

Yeah...introducing yet something else to the mix is not often a good idea. It's nature, been around for a couple of years and all, it'll sort itself out. I hear nature is good at taking care of itself given time :)

And at least the NM person stated basically "uh, weren't not massive closing, we need caver's help!" so that was a nice thing that at least someone recognizes that cavers are an asset not a detriment.
Self-deleted due to large troll population on the forum, and absence of moderation.
self-deleted_user
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 1408
Joined: Aug 6, 2010 8:33 pm
Location: Offline, in real life, with real cavers.
  


Return to White Nose Syndrome (WNS)

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users