On the News Hour with Jim Lehrer, March 9, 2010
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PYoungbaer wrote:Given the other four caves in the area where it was first noticed (Gage Caverns, Schoharie Caverns, Knox Cave, and Hailes Cave) in 2007 were either highly visited (all but Hailes), or regularly surveyed (Hailes by NYDEC), and no one noticed anything, much less the mass mortalities that were seen in 2007, there isn't any evidence pointing us to another point source.
PYoungbaer wrote:Luke,
I understand your point. However, it remains true that the first documentation of WNS is the series of photos taken by Paul Rubin in the Howes Cave (non-commercial) section of Howe Caverns in 2006. Given the other four caves in the area where it was first noticed (Gage Caverns, Schoharie Caverns, Knox Cave, and Hailes Cave) in 2007 were either highly visited (all but Hailes), or regularly surveyed (Hailes by NYDEC), and no one noticed anything, much less the mass mortalities that were seen in 2007, there isn't any evidence pointing us to another point source. How WNS got to Howes Cave is simply undetermined, as you state.
By the way, kudos to Matt Skeel, Pat Ormsbee, and the PBS film crew for a nicely-edited piece.
And we now have nine species of bats that have been affected by White Nose with virtually no resistance.
Cheryl Jones wrote:
Who Pat Ormsbee? It is curious that she was not given any credentials, and not even introduced.
Pat saysAnd we now have nine species of bats that have been affected by White Nose with virtually no resistance.
But can't we say that some appear to be showing resistance, such as the Virginia big ear and Indiana? They're not dying in anywhere near the numbers that the little browns are.Cheryl
Cheryl Jones wrote:I was particularly frustrated by the image of a gated cave that accompanied the statement about caves being closed on federal land. This just feeds concerns cavers have of federal agencies gating caves to permanently restrict access, and it gives cavers no credibility for cooperating with agencies on closure rules and complying without the need for gates. Caver cooperation and partnership with federal and state agencies are important messages, and critical aspects of WNS management.
Who Pat Ormsbee? It is curious that she was not given any credentials, and not even introduced.
Pat saysAnd we now have nine species of bats that have been affected by White Nose with virtually no resistance.
But can't we say that some appear to be showing resistance, such as the Virginia big ear and Indiana? They're not dying in anywhere near the numbers that the little browns are.
Cheryl
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