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Lubricating Ascenders

Postby Ralph E. Powers » Jan 5, 2009 11:06 am

Been asked about what is the best lubrication to use for the hinges/pins/springs of ascenders. I suggested WD-40 lightly sprayed (or drops) at those points and working them in (opening and closing the cam a few times) and wiping off the excess.
Was told that WD-40 isn't good because it's water-based and water on metal induces rust. Well yes, this is true... but far as I know aluminum doesn't rust. Also the fact that I've been using that product for years with no ill effect on my gear.

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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby ArCaver » Jan 5, 2009 12:23 pm

Water based? It's actually a water displacing agent. I've used it to prevent rust on equipment but I don't consider it a very good lubricant. One of the dry lubes designed for wood working equipment or locks would be a better choice since they won't gum up with dirt as easily as something "oily" in nature.

I don't think a water based product would do this: http://spluch.blogspot.com/2007/07/neve ... 0-can.html
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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby hank moon » Jan 5, 2009 1:03 pm

Regular machine oil on the cheap end

Metolius cam lube or similar "dry" lube (as used for mtn. bike chains) on the pricy end.

Use WD-40 to clean out old gunk in prep for lubing.

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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby hunter » Jan 5, 2009 6:47 pm

I use a Teflon based bike chain lubricant (White Lightening I think). It is not cheap (maybe 15-20 per bottle) but it doesn't take much. The idea for bike chains is that dirt sticks to oil which is bad and Teflon doesn't have this issue.

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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby ian mckenzie » Jan 5, 2009 7:16 pm

hunter wrote:I use a Teflon based bike chain lubricant (White Lightening I think). It is not cheap (maybe 15-20 per bottle) but it doesn't take much. The idea for bike chains is that dirt sticks to oil which is bad and Teflon doesn't have this issue.

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You could use parrafin on your bike chain which is much cheaper.
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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby caverdoc » Jan 5, 2009 9:31 pm

I typically use ambergris or duck butter.

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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby Chads93GT » Jan 5, 2009 11:33 pm

The paraphine wax is close! Us crazy mountain bikers use White Ligtning Chain Wax! Its basically liquid paraphine. I use it on the chains, and all moving parts, including the cables. Dirt doesnt stick to it, and it sheds the excess off as its used.

WD40 stands for Water Displacement - 40, the 40 being the 40th formula. It was designed to spray on rockets back in the 50's? (look it up on wikipedia). Its basically deisel fuel in a can. The only thing its good for is spraying inside your distributor cap when you spray down your hot rods engine and you get water in the distributor. But enough of that ;)
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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby Ralph E. Powers » Jan 6, 2009 11:40 am

caverdoc wrote:I typically use ambergris or duck butter.

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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby caverdoc » Jan 6, 2009 4:26 pm

Ralph E. Powers wrote:
caverdoc wrote:I typically use ambergris or duck butter.

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Ralph, I don't make the poor leviathans vomit. I just scoop up their rich buttery effluvium and go about my business. :banana:

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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby ArCaver » Jan 6, 2009 9:29 pm

caverdoc wrote:
Ralph E. Powers wrote:
caverdoc wrote:I typically use ambergris or duck butter.

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Ralph, I don't make the poor leviathans vomit. I just scoop up their rich buttery effluvium and go about my business. :banana:

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It's the duck butter that has me worried...
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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby shibumi » Jan 13, 2009 2:04 pm

ArCaver wrote:It's the duck butter that has me worried...


Look, can you folks keep your personal lives out of this technical question? This is a family forum.

For my gear I use light machine oil, very sparingly.
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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby gregmathis1 » Jan 13, 2009 3:22 pm

Anything wrong with using silicon spray? Have been using it for years with no problems. Was thinking about using dolphin fat but I like the idea of duck butter.
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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby ek » Jan 13, 2009 4:40 pm

Dolphin fat may be too high in PCB's to be advisable for this application.
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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby ArCaver » Jan 13, 2009 4:47 pm

shibumi wrote:
ArCaver wrote:It's the duck butter that has me worried...


Look, can you folks keep your personal lives out of this technical question? This is a family forum.

For my gear I use light machine oil, very sparingly.


How light are the machines, and how do you press the oil from them?
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Re: Lubricating Ascenders

Postby JoeNurse » Jan 13, 2009 4:52 pm

I'd worry more about the mercury level of my dolphin fat than the PCBs. How about bat snot? Its more fun to collect.

I use Blaster TDL Dry Lube on most everything. It is a plastic safe spray teflon (PTFE) that doesn't leave an oily film behind
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