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subter wrote:I've included an article by Gordon Birkhimer discussing an approach that has saved his live. Starts on page 10
http://cave.pure.net/~bats/downloads/newsletter/febmar2006.pdf
hank moon wrote:Hey, stop posting that kind of stuff over here! Might mess with the myopia!
Tim White wrote:I’ve been playing with a modified microcender as a type of auto- belay device above the rack. It seems to work. Tell you what...Hank, get your in gear and publish your SHUNT result and I’ll get my off the couch and publish my microcender idea.
subter wrote:...it seems reckless to both ourselves and those that we are caving with to not delve deeper into this issue and come to at least SOME consensus on how to improve our level of safety while rappelling.
Scott McCrea wrote:subter wrote:...it seems reckless to both ourselves and those that we are caving with to not delve deeper into this issue and come to at least SOME consensus on how to improve our level of safety while rappelling.
The first step in improving a rappeller's level of safety is to learn good technique. Then, if one feels that an extra layer of safety is necessary--so be it.
subter wrote:If you had to put your young child on rope on a moments notice with no time to train him/her what would that 'extra' layer of safety be? A shunt, french wrap, prusik, ASAP... a copy of "On Rope".
I'm not trying to stifle a debate or discussion but rather than hearing why everyone thinks certain approaches would NEVER work or are too troublesome, heavy or complicated it would be GREAT to hear what the experts here would stand behind... If anything?
subter wrote:If you had to put your young child on rope on a moments notice with no time to train him/her what would that 'extra' layer of safety be? A shunt, french wrap, prusik, ASAP... a copy of "On Rope".
subter wrote:I'm not trying to stifle a debate or discussion but rather than hearing why everyone thinks certain approaches would NEVER work or are too troublesome, heavy or complicated it would be GREAT to hear what the experts here would stand behind... If anything?
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