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hectorcal wrote:Hi, i want you guys to help me out on knowing which is the best way to do tandem climbing..
Scott McCrea wrote:This one time, in Ellison's Fantastic Pit, I ropewalked with a frogger below me. It sucked.
I once got stuck on the bottom of Fantastic for 14 hours (the water falls were flowing and the wind was howling) because 2 "froggers" tried to tandem out on 600' of Bluewater. Murphy was in studied attendance that day as the problems snowballed into an avalanche of difficulties without end. We never did go "caving".
Thank God I had a spaceblanket and carbide that day.
tom
chh wrote:I've heard this story before. 14 hrs. Bluewater. I think I might know someone else who was with you that day. Seems too coincidental, unless that particular scenario is common.
Let's see- they were from Indiana, the gal on top got sick about 30 feet above the floor when the lower one climbed up to her, neither one knew how to down climb, I had to climb/pull the stretch out of the rope to show the lower one how, then repeat for the upper one (who was sick)(fortunately she didn't throw up on me, that would have made it all worse), then the lower one began to climb again (elapsed time getting them off rope: 1 hr?), 2 1/2 hrs later she finally reached the top,....
There was more, much more, like when my partners tried to rig our rope from the natural anchor (the Indiana folks had the bolts), it was 20 feet short, and my partners could barely hear me yelling up...There was a pretty cool graph paper drawing in the log book that MUST have taken a long time. Zat you?
Phil Winkler wrote:I suspect the nausea was simple motion sickness that can result when you are moved involuntarily and with no notice or control. It is car sickness or sea sickness. I know the few times I tandemed that it was a disorienting experience to feel the rope moving as someone else climbed with you. It was much better when we synchronized our efforts.
chh wrote: I think from cob's story you can see why tandem climbing is potentially a more serious venture than just a simple time saving technique. Change-overs, downclimbing, and pick-offs are things you'll want to know before you attempt it. Just in case.
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