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8mm SS Hanger Question

PostPosted: Sep 8, 2015 10:07 am
by DawgsgoCaving
What kind of hangers have y'all been using with petzl 8mm self-driving anchors? I can only find 8mm aluminum hangers and a few other varieties from different vendors. I can't seem to find a good stainless one. Anyone have any experience with this?

Re: 8mm SS Hanger Question

PostPosted: Sep 8, 2015 10:35 am
by Extremeophile
DawgsgoCaving wrote:What kind of hangers have y'all been using with petzl 8mm self-driving anchors? I can only find 8mm aluminum hangers and a few other varieties from different vendors. I can't seem to find a good stainless one. Anyone have any experience with this?

I generally only use self-drives for remote exploratory caving, and I just use the Petzl aluminum hangers. The self-drives are weaker in shear than many other options, and generally not suitable in tension (e.g. ceiling placements), and if left for an extended period they will corrode. The self-drive sleeves are usually plated steel, and you can use them with a 8 mm stainless bolt and standard SS hanger. These hangers usually have 10 mm (~3/8") holes, but I think they're fine to use with a hex-head bolt. If the placement is intended for repeated use over a longer period of time (e.g. more than a year), then I'd suggest using fully SS hardware and something with greater embedded depth (e.g. 3/8 x 3" wedge bolt), but the specific bolt and hanger type should be based on direction of pull and rock quality. It's still possible to hand drill these placements, it just takes a bit longer.

Re: 8mm SS Hanger Question

PostPosted: Sep 8, 2015 3:38 pm
by DawgsgoCaving
Thanks.

Re: 8mm SS Hanger Question

PostPosted: Sep 8, 2015 5:40 pm
by snoboy
Raumer makes 8mm hardware in SS, including sleeve anchors. They are however, not self drilling style - so require a separate drill.

https://starlessriver.com/shop/rigging_and_bolting

Available from Starless River in the UK, but I am not sure who does Raumer in the US. Their website says that Climb High is the distributor.

http://www.raumerclimbing.com/eng/rivenditori.asp

Re: 8mm SS Hanger Question

PostPosted: Jun 10, 2018 8:15 pm
by CaverCarl
What's wrong with Aluminum?
CaverCarl

Re: 8mm SS Hanger Question

PostPosted: Jun 13, 2018 3:48 pm
by trogman
CaverCarl wrote:What's wrong with Aluminum?
CaverCarl


Aluminum actually corrodes with time and exposure to the elements. Stainless lasts practically forever, and is also much stronger.

Here is the link to buy Climb Tech hangers:

Climb Tech Hangers

Trogman :helmet: