Scott McCrea wrote:Did you get any pics? This would make a nice Safety and Techniques Committee article.
No, but now that I know it'll work I'm thinking about doing a little video demo and taking some photos.
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Scott McCrea wrote:Did you get any pics? This would make a nice Safety and Techniques Committee article.
GroundquestMSA wrote:If I ever find myself at the bottom of a pit with no gear at all...
GroundquestMSA wrote:I know it's not efficient.
GroundquestMSA wrote:Gary Storrick notes that the tail of the Blake's needs a stopper. The climber who showed me the knot says otherwise, and climbed with only a short tail (2-3") and no stopper. Since he has climbed with it for years, I'll take his word. I have been unable to get the tail to pull through while playing with the knot myself, unless I completely neglect to dress it.
The Blake's hitch would be a way to further reduce the bulk of a tiny climbing system, and it seems like a good emergency knot for cavers to know, especially since it works with a single strand and a wide variety of rope diameters. It works great with my 10.5 dynamic on Pit rope and while it gets extremely tight with tiny strands (I used some cotton clothesline), it is easier to break than a prusik.
GroundquestMSA wrote:On a related note, I would love to know of a friction hitch that will work with 11mm Pit on 11mm Pit.
NZcaver wrote:GroundquestMSA wrote:NZcaver wrote:Tiblocs are much more efficient, but also much more expensive and a little bulkier than simple hitches.
Have you used a Tibloc enough to gauge its effect on rope after several uses? Rope is a major expense for me and I don't want to tear it up if I can help it.
Short answer - it's also been a while since I last used Tiblocs. They are not quite as plug-and-play as a regular ascender, but I managed to use them without tearing up any rope. I keep hearing people bemoan them, but a caver I know who actually likes Tiblocs and uses them often seems to have no trouble and no adverse wear and tear on caving rope. Check the Petzl website as there's a particular handling technique, which if ignored due to lack of knowledge or if a person is tired may result in some adverse sheath wear.
Know anybody who has some you can try?
hank moon wrote: It is best to get into the habit of tying a backup knot. I cannot think of a good reason knot... to
hank moon wrote:...unless taking needless risk for minor intellectual satisfaction is the sine qua non of your existence.
hank moon wrote:What's the pleasure in not finishing your knot?
GroundquestMSA wrote:hank moon wrote:What's the pleasure in not finishing your knot?
Dunno. Except the pious fulfillment that comes with avoiding the terrible waste of resources...
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