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Tlaloc wrote:Chads93GT wrote:The racist comment has to get the award for the dumbests post of the century.
It went way over YOUR head anyway. What Marbach and Tourte are saying is that you and all Americans are ignorant barbarians and this is why you use the crappy (non-French) vertical techniques that you do.
Chads93GT wrote:You quoted a amazon book review to make your point about it being racist. Over my head? Hardly.
eyecave wrote:we also have an affinity for waterfalls and rigging the rope deliberately in the flow of the water....some are whimpy about that...
Mike Hopley wrote:eyecave wrote:we also have an affinity for waterfalls and rigging the rope deliberately in the flow of the water....some are whimpy about that...
Getting stuck or exhausted on rope in a waterfall is life-threatening. There's nothing wimpy about avoiding fatalities.
Tlaloc wrote:Chads93GT wrote:You quoted a amazon book review to make your point about it being racist. Over my head? Hardly.
No, I quoted Marbach and Tourte. The Amazon.com reviews don't mention our Anglo Saxon culture.
eyecave wrote:first i would like to admit to being TAGcentric (i think thats right)....rigging a rope in a waterfall should never be taken as anything except very dangerous...the most dangerous part being when you rig in your climbing gear and begin to ascend........never rig in really really cold water.....TAG water temp is usually low to mid fifties...rain, snow melt, and dam breaks can change things...any amount of water can cause hypothermia in a climber and as the volume of water goes up it gets more and more important to be able to handle any on rope emergency you might encounter...and don't try to climb in it if you can't stand upright in it.........proper protective equipment, good judgment, and experience are also absolute musts.....
Extremeophile wrote:eyecave wrote:first i would like to admit to being TAGcentric (i think thats right)....rigging a rope in a waterfall should never be taken as anything except very dangerous...the most dangerous part being when you rig in your climbing gear and begin to ascend........never rig in really really cold water.....TAG water temp is usually low to mid fifties...rain, snow melt, and dam breaks can change things...any amount of water can cause hypothermia in a climber and as the volume of water goes up it gets more and more important to be able to handle any on rope emergency you might encounter...and don't try to climb in it if you can't stand upright in it.........proper protective equipment, good judgment, and experience are also absolute musts.....
It's good to know that good judgment and experience are musts for climbing rope in a waterfall . Though maybe those with good judgment and experience wouldn't climb rope in a waterfall. A bit of a catch-22 .
Extremeophile wrote:eyecave wrote:first i would like to admit to being TAGcentric (i think thats right)....rigging a rope in a waterfall should never be taken as anything except very dangerous...the most dangerous part being when you rig in your climbing gear and begin to ascend........never rig in really really cold water.....TAG water temp is usually low to mid fifties...rain, snow melt, and dam breaks can change things...any amount of water can cause hypothermia in a climber and as the volume of water goes up it gets more and more important to be able to handle any on rope emergency you might encounter...and don't try to climb in it if you can't stand upright in it.........proper protective equipment, good judgment, and experience are also absolute musts.....
It's good to know that good judgment and experience are musts for climbing rope in a waterfall . Though maybe those with good judgment and experience wouldn't climb rope in a waterfall. A bit of a catch-22 .
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