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NZcaver wrote:Also unless you're a really big guy (and I don't think you are) I'm sorry to say you got the wrong micro rack. You should have got the 10.5 inch frame. The 8.5 inch frame is all but useless for many cavers in the US because you can't spread the bars wide enough to move efficiently on a dirty 11mm.
GroundquestMSA wrote:NZcaver wrote:Also unless you're a really big guy (and I don't think you are) I'm sorry to say you got the wrong micro rack. You should have got the 10.5 inch frame. The 8.5 inch frame is all but useless for many cavers in the US because you can't spread the bars wide enough to move efficiently on a dirty 11mm.
I'd be really big for a six year old maybe. I bought the rack used from another caver, just to try it out. Suppose I should have done more research first. I think it will work for me in some cases because I don't do enough vertical caving between rope washings. I successfully used it on 11mm static yesterday, but it wasn't Pit.
I see your point about the bar orientation. It seems like the rope will still rub the frame a bit if I switch them around. I'll try a few lefty rappels and check it out before I change anything.
Chads93GT wrote:Just add a 7mm quicknlink
Chads93GT wrote:Just add a 7mm quicknlink to the rack and the mini rack will be orientated as it was originally designed. No need to remove the bars and flip them. Just orient the rack so the hyper bars are pointing away from you. Not to the right or the left. Same as a 6 bar racks intended orientation. Yes. People will argue this point. Flame on. Lol
Chads93GT wrote:The rope will always rub the frame if the rack is oriented so you see the entire face of the bars and not the ends of the bars.
NZcaver wrote:I do believe frame rub could just as easily apply to a perpendicular oriented rack as a parallel one.
Scott McCrea wrote:It's safe, functional transportation...
Scott McCrea wrote:You can attach a U shaped framed rack directly to the 1/2 round. It's useful to make it nice an short, but you can't take it off easily.
Scott McCrea wrote:Many cavers using a caving harness (one with a half-round) with a J-shaped rack, use the wrong shaped rack. Twisted-eye (90 degree twist in the eye) frames are made for caving harnesses, assuming there is a link between the half-round and rack. Flat-eye racks are for directly attaching to the half-round or climbing style harnesses. John Cole told me, in person, that he designed the rack to be oriented perpendicular to the body. Using a rack oriented parallel to your body is like driving a Ferrari only using 3rd gear. It's safe, functional transportation, but you're wasting performance.
Scott McCrea wrote:LOL! MOS does lots of things "wrong."
John Cole, or not, there are many reasons why perpendicular J-racks are better and most apply to U-racks, as well.
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