V-Sit?

Discuss vertical caving, equipment, & techniques. Also visit the NSS Vertical Section.

Moderator: Tim White

V-Sit?

Postby Amazingracer » May 29, 2012 8:55 am

So apparently the Bridge Day Application this year asks folks if they can perform a "V-sit". However no one that I have talked to seems to know what this is.

Our best guess is a fancy way of being able to sit in your harness while rappelling. But who knows.

Google just results in gymnastics/yoga moves so I am guessing that is not the same here.

Any ideas?
User avatar
Amazingracer
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 307
Joined: Jun 25, 2007 7:24 pm
Location: American Fork, UT
Name: Kyle Gochenour
NSS #: 58846
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Dogwood City Grotto
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby Scott McCrea » May 29, 2012 8:59 am

Never heard of it.
Scott McCrea
SWAYGO
User avatar
Scott McCrea
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 3198
Joined: Sep 5, 2005 3:07 pm
Location: Asheville, NC USA
NSS #: 40839RL
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Flittermouse Grotto
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby Phil Winkler » May 29, 2012 9:13 am

Phil Winkler
13627 FE
User avatar
Phil Winkler
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 2375
Joined: Sep 5, 2005 8:48 am
Location: Wilmington, DE and Dewey Beach
NSS #: 13627FE
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby Chads93GT » May 29, 2012 9:53 am

dude im on the safety team and even I dont know what in the hell that is. I clicked yes........................
User avatar
Chads93GT
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 2294
Joined: Jun 24, 2008 1:27 pm
Location: Missouri
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby PeterFJohnson » May 29, 2012 10:49 am

A v-sit is also an alternative way to do a sit up. Not sure if that is what the bridge day masters that be are looking for.
User avatar
PeterFJohnson
Prolific Poster
 
Posts: 110
Joined: Nov 12, 2010 6:29 pm
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Colorado Grotto + GVKS
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby Chads93GT » May 29, 2012 11:37 am

Im sure it has to do with simply having the core strength to sit upright in your harness for..............10 minutes. Years ago a big dude couldnt and he fell backwards. He was wiped out and couldnt even reach his rack. he was belayed to the ground.
User avatar
Chads93GT
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 2294
Joined: Jun 24, 2008 1:27 pm
Location: Missouri
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby chh » May 29, 2012 3:56 pm

Chads93GT wrote:Im sure it has to do with simply having the core strength to sit upright in your harness for..............10 minutes. Years ago a big dude couldnt and he fell backwards. He was wiped out and couldnt even reach his rack. he was belayed to the ground.


Wait, really? That's not some kind of EXTREME RAPPELLING! urban legend? Maybe he was narcoleptic? Or had really bad vertigo? Or was super, super drunk?
Your words of caution are no match for my disaster style!
User avatar
chh
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 522
Joined: Oct 4, 2005 3:21 pm
Location: asheville, nc
Name: caleb
NSS #: 55745
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby Scott McCrea » May 29, 2012 4:44 pm

chh wrote:
Chads93GT wrote:Im sure it has to do with simply having the core strength to sit upright in your harness for..............10 minutes. Years ago a big dude couldnt and he fell backwards. He was wiped out and couldnt even reach his rack. he was belayed to the ground.


Wait, really? That's not some kind of EXTREME RAPPELLING! urban legend? Maybe he was narcoleptic? Or had really bad vertigo? Or was super, super drunk?

The dude in question had poor technique for varying the friction on his rack. He was feeding rope at the top and quickly got tired, frustrated and eventually tuckered out. Then, made a mistake he didn't have the energy to correct. This dude was on belay, but it didn't work. He was injured when landed in the ditch next to the RR tracks.

If this is the sort of thing they are looking for, it could be a set up to hold top-heavy rappellers upright. Something like a chest harness with a tether riding just above the rack. But, that's just a guess.
Scott McCrea
SWAYGO
User avatar
Scott McCrea
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 3198
Joined: Sep 5, 2005 3:07 pm
Location: Asheville, NC USA
NSS #: 40839RL
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Flittermouse Grotto
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby Amazingracer » May 29, 2012 8:26 pm

Cool. Thanks for the info. Even though Im back in Utah. Its having to deal with nonsense like this that I would pass on Bridge Day. Its fun and all but it can quickly become a hassle. It shouldnt take a forum post to understand an application question.
User avatar
Amazingracer
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 307
Joined: Jun 25, 2007 7:24 pm
Location: American Fork, UT
Name: Kyle Gochenour
NSS #: 58846
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Dogwood City Grotto
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby Jeff Bartlett » May 29, 2012 8:34 pm

I think a clearer way to put it on the form would have been like this:
Q: Are you so morbidly obese, out-of-shape and unskilled at rappelling that you are a likely danger to yourself and those around you? Y/N
"Although it pains me to say it, in this case Jeff is right. Plan accordingly." --Andy Armstrong
User avatar
Jeff Bartlett
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 948
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 12:19 am
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Name: Jeff Bartlett
NSS #: 59325
Primary Grotto Affiliation: Tennessee Cave Survey
  

Re: V-Sit?

Postby Chads93GT » May 29, 2012 8:52 pm

Lol Jeff.

As for the it's you and Your team leaders call as to wether or not you need a chest harness. It would also be my call not to let you go a second time if you fit Jeff's description. Lol.
User avatar
Chads93GT
NSS Hall Of Fame Poster
 
Posts: 2294
Joined: Jun 24, 2008 1:27 pm
Location: Missouri
  


Return to On Rope!

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

cron