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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby NZcaver » Nov 1, 2011 4:08 pm

Scott McCrea wrote:tl;dr

?? :shrug:
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Jeff Bartlett » Nov 1, 2011 4:33 pm

I had to ask Dave Riggs. It's forum-speak for "Too long: didn't read."
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Scott McCrea » Nov 1, 2011 4:44 pm

Sorry Jeff. Just making fun.
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Jeff Bartlett » Nov 1, 2011 4:53 pm

Scott McCrea wrote:Sorry Jeff. Just making fun.

No apologies necessary! Hanging out with Andy Armstrong for a week made me realize that my loooong absence from Cavechat has deprived me of some good fun.
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby NZcaver » Nov 1, 2011 5:12 pm

Jeff Bartlett wrote:
Scott McCrea wrote:Sorry Jeff. Just making fun.

No apologies necessary! Hanging out with Andy Armstrong for a week made me realize that my loooong absence from Cavechat has deprived me of some good fun.

And clearly you are now trying to make up for lost time... :tonguecheek: :waving:
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Carl Amundson » Nov 1, 2011 9:46 pm

LOL Jeff, it’s good to see you back again.

Well you have me feeling I need to explain my choice of a Figure-9 knot as my central attachment.
Cow-tails are usually tied with smaller diameter rope (I use 9mm dynamic).
The Figure-9 knot has more gradual bends then most knots which places less stress concentration at the bends.
And I like the Figure-9, it’s a good looking knot. :big grin:
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Jeff Bartlett » Nov 1, 2011 10:18 pm

junkman wrote:The Figure-9 knot has more gradual bends then most knots which places less stress concentration at the bends.
And I like the Figure-9, it’s a good looking knot. :big grin:

I'd failed to notice that post about the Figure 9! The only part of this I disagree with is the part where you claim the figure 9 looks good, when in reality the figure 9 (on a bight) looks like a drunk guy tied a figure 8 and then backed over it with his car.
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby NZcaver » Nov 2, 2011 4:55 am

Jeff Bartlett wrote:
junkman wrote:The Figure-9 knot has more gradual bends then most knots which places less stress concentration at the bends.
And I like the Figure-9, it’s a good looking knot. :big grin:

I'd failed to notice that post about the Figure 9! The only part of this I disagree with is the part where you claim the figure 9 looks good, when in reality the figure 9 (on a bight) looks like a drunk guy tied a figure 8 and then backed over it with his car.

Overhand bight. Simple, sleek, and.... sober? :grin:
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby LukeM » Nov 2, 2011 9:26 am

Jeff Bartlett wrote:
junkman wrote:The Figure-9 knot has more gradual bends then most knots which places less stress concentration at the bends.
And I like the Figure-9, it’s a good looking knot. :big grin:

I'd failed to notice that post about the Figure 9! The only part of this I disagree with is the part where you claim the figure 9 looks good, when in reality the figure 9 (on a bight) looks like a drunk guy tied a figure 8 and then backed over it with his car.


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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Chads93GT » Nov 2, 2011 2:45 pm

Figure 8's for centers and barrel knots for the ends. I use 10.5mm dynamic simply because I have a lot lying around. I like the profile of the 8 at the maillion and I even have friends who use butterfly's. I don't agree with using butterfly's at all as the use of the cowstail with butterfly knots seems rather incorrect. Is a butterfly even a knot that can safely absorb a shock load. Butterfly's are for linear pulling along the free ends of the rope but to use it where the tails will be pulling directly away from the center knot doesn't make sense. A figure 8 is much better of a knot.
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Chads93GT » Nov 2, 2011 2:46 pm

P.s. I like drunken frat boy monkey garbage. Ie jimmy Buffett
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Cody JW » Nov 2, 2011 4:04 pm

I like the figure 8 on bight for both end line and mid line knots. Easy to tie and easy to untie after being weighted . As for the cows tail, I have the pre made one from Petzl that is supposed to absorb shock. Only use it for crossing re belays and do not do much of that on this side of the pond.
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Scott McCrea » Nov 2, 2011 4:14 pm

I only have one cows tail. And, it has a bowline at the end.

Is your mind blown?
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby chh » Nov 2, 2011 5:29 pm

NZcaver wrote:
Scott McCrea wrote:tl;dr

?? :shrug:


We use our words Mr. McCrea......

And my mind is blown permanently dude! Like, whooooah.
Your words of caution are no match for my disaster style!
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Re: Cow's Tails Center Attachment

Postby Chads93GT » Nov 2, 2011 6:16 pm

chh wrote:
NZcaver wrote:
Scott McCrea wrote:tl;dr

?? :shrug:


We use our words Mr. McCrea......

And my mind is blown permanently dude! Like, whooooah.




Dag yo that is wack!!!
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