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Greg Jones wrote:Well is it Groaning Cave? I know this cave is gated and near Glenwood Springs.
tncaver wrote:Maybe the gate and access is the problem Derek. If no one can go there except for "privileged elitist" cavers, there may not be many people that recognize the cave. Perhaps you should provide a picture of a cave that "normal" cavers can visit.
caverdan wrote:tncaver wrote:Maybe the gate and access is the problem Derek. If no one can go there except for "privileged elitist" cavers, there may not be many people that recognize the cave. Perhaps you should provide a picture of a cave that "normal" cavers can visit.
Don't worry John.......abnormal cavers visit it all the time.
Ernie Coffman wrote:This looks like its going to turn into a different discussion, if we are concerned about protecting caves with locks, so ...Derek is there something wrong with protecting a cave? Like Dan wrote, "abnormal cavers visit it all the time. <grin> <grin> <grin> <grin>. Is this one of the Colorado caves that shouldn't be locked down? Is that what you're implying? Or is it that you think none of the caves should be locked down?
caverdan wrote:Sorry for taking this thread off topic but here is the deal on Lasunder. Check out the link for the whole picture and management plan.
http://www.coloradocavesurvey.org/CCS_LaSunder.html
It is one of the very few gated caves on BLM land and without Stu, Carl, Derek, and a list of other long time members of the CCS.......we would not have access to this cave.....nor an MOU with the BLM to manage it. The BLM is NOT the USFS and has worked with CCS from the get go on things like targeted cave closures.
Anyone can go on a grotto trip. Even with convention .....we didn't use all our allotted trips for the year. It's a long hike at altitude so a lot of people don't go often.....or at all. It is highly decorated. No...I have not been there.
I'll butt out now and hopefully this thread will return to it's playful nature.
tncaver wrote:Which state is it in Marlatt?
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