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Matt wrote:that might be best left for instructing while in person.
We are fortunate members of SoCal Grotto have visited us several times and wanted to survey some of our caves. We were able to learn the basics and when they saw our interest they left their old surveying equipment (luckily they just upgraded) and the bug to survey caves. So we practiced on our own and managed to work up several data sets. We are now learning how to get the data to look like a map.Howard wrote:Nothing can help better then finding an experienced surveyor and going with them
JR-Orion wrote:I just ordered On Station. The book is not here yet, but it's odd that it doesn't go into much "how to" detail. Oh well, I'm sure it will still be an interesting read.
And thanks for the links in this thread. Tons of good info there.
Chads93GT wrote:I had no idea there were such books. I figured the knowledge was passed on from caver to caver.
tncaver wrote:Chads93GT wrote:I had no idea there were such books. I figured the knowledge was passed on from caver to caver.
Quite frankly it is, and it isn't, passed on. I've been caving 50 years and only in the past 10 years have I wanted to know how to draw up a map.
I know how to pull and read a tape, write down info and sketch, but have no clue how to draw up the map. I've actually requested instruction on drawing
up a cave survey map and it fell on deaf ears. So, it IS NOT necessarily passed on by cavers, unless you are a cartographers "favorite". I requested instruction
from surveyors and they ignored me. Therefore those cavers will not be involved in my next project. Their loss. Books have not been useful either.
Another failure by "organized" cavers.
Quite frankly it is, and it isn't, passed on. I've been caving 50 years and only in the past 10 years have I wanted to know how to draw up a map.
I know how to pull and read a tape, write down info and sketch, but have no clue how to draw up the map. I've actually requested instruction on drawing
up a cave survey map and it fell on deaf ears. So, it IS NOT necessarily passed on by cavers, unless you are a cartographers "favorite". I requested instruction
from surveyors and they ignored me. Therefore those cavers will not be involved in my next project. Their loss. Books have not been useful either.
Another failure by "organized" cavers.
Dawn Ryan wrote:JR-Orion wrote:I just ordered On Station. The book is not here yet, but it's odd that it doesn't go into much "how to" detail. Oh well, I'm sure it will still be an interesting read.
And thanks for the links in this thread. Tons of good info there.
Hey JR,
There are some very active surveyors here in Illinois. In fact we'll be surveying this weekend at Mystery Cave. We'd be happy to each anyone interested and you're welcome to come along on the survey.
Dawn Ryan
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