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Postby akcaver » Apr 7, 2008 4:10 pm

Hey all,
Could anyone tell me where to locate a map of Rumbling Falls Cave, Tennessee? Was jsut there this past weekend and loved the amount of work it took a team of three to get to suprise pit! Im really interested in seeing where the other passages are. PM me if its a sensitive subject.
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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby wyandottecaver » Apr 7, 2008 7:32 pm

andrew,

I have not been to rumbling falls ( I looked at the entrance once :) and so could be wrong, but I beleive surprise pit (at least the one I am familiar with) is located in a different cave called ellisons.

In any event, the best resource would be a local grotto. these can be looked up on the NSS website
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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby Scott McCrea » Apr 7, 2008 8:04 pm

Fantastic Pit = Ellisons Cave
Incredible Pit = Ellisons Cave
Surprise Pit = Fern Cave
Stupendous Pit = Rumbling Falls Cave

I know RF was mapped but the only map I have seen is the one that was published in the Sports Illustrated article a few years ago. Was a map ever published in the NSS News?
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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby wyandottecaver » Apr 7, 2008 8:20 pm

LOL duh! all those big deep tag pits look the same to me when I see them in the slideshows :rofl:
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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby Brian Masney » Apr 10, 2008 12:34 pm

Scott McCrea wrote:I know RF was mapped but the only map I have seen is the one that was published in the Sports Illustrated article a few years ago. Was a map ever published in the NSS News?


The 2005 NSS Convention Guidebook (Huntsville, AL) includes a map of Rumbling Falls.

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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby Larry E. Matthews » May 19, 2015 5:28 pm

I just got out my 2005 NSS Convention Guidebook and I don't see a map of Rumbling Falls Cave in there. Was it a loose insert?

If it is in there, what page is it on?

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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby msm0711 » May 19, 2015 8:26 pm

Try googling Waterfall Room in Ellison's..... lol.... :rofl:

and I mean that in the way that though there is one, you get all sorts of different leads to different caves!
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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby driggs » May 19, 2015 8:31 pm

Larry E. Matthews wrote:I just got out my 2005 NSS Convention Guidebook and I don't see a map of Rumbling Falls Cave in there. Was it a loose insert?


The Rumbling Falls map was included in a fat map packet which came with the guidebook, though it is sadly a single 8.5x11 sheet.

This map has my favorite scalebar of any cave map: a Boeing 737 jetliner.

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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby trogman » May 19, 2015 8:49 pm

The map is in SERA 2003 Guidebook, pages 28 & 29. You can probably purchase one from the NSS.

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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby Larry E. Matthews » May 19, 2015 9:34 pm

Thank all of you for your replies !!!

I am working on a book about the caves of Fall Creek Falls State Park here in Tennessee. Since the copyright owner of the Rumbling Falls Cave map does not want it published in the book, I was going to refer NSS Members to go to the 2005 NSS Convention Guidebook to see a copy. I may still do that, but note that it was a loose copy in the Convention materials.

Of course, that won't help most readers of the book, because they will not have a copy or have access to the 2005 Convention material.

Naturally, we will NOT publish the map without the copyright owner's permission.

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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby GroundquestMSA » May 20, 2015 9:27 am

Nice idea for a book Larry. Will you be featuring only the big ones, or are you trying to include all of the caves on FCF property?
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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby tncaver » May 20, 2015 9:54 am

akcaver wrote:Hey all,
Could anyone tell me where to locate a map of Rumbling Falls Cave, Tennessee? Was jsut there this past weekend and loved the amount of work it took a team of three to get to suprise pit! Im really interested in seeing where the other passages are. PM me if its a sensitive subject.
Thanks!
Andrew


Andrew, the Tennessee Cave Survey has a copy of the RFC map showing surveyed passages from 1998 through 2002. You could ask Marion Smith or John Swartz for a copy but they are probably too greedy to share. They won't even give permission for Larry Matthews to use the map in his future book about caves in that vicinity. The irony is that the map is already out of date but still shows the majority of cave. You would think they would
want the good publicity that would come from that.
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Re: Rumbling Falls Map

Postby Larry E. Matthews » May 20, 2015 10:15 am

Only the big, well-known caves. The State actually has a permitting system now for some of these caves.

This area may prove to be a Mecca for caving, as private land gets harder and harder to get permission to go on.

Rumbling Falls Cave, for example, was featured in Sports Illustrated Magazine, and has been in all the Tennessee newspapers. It is NOT a secret cave. Nor are Lost Creek Cave, Camps Gulf Cave, Virgin Falls Cave, etc. This will cover the old portions of the Park, the new Bridgestone (Camps Gulf) addition, Scotts Gulf, and a State Wildlife management Area and a State Forest, all continuous to one another.

It takes 4 topo maps to cover it all.

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