Cavemud wrote:The real problem here is people publishing this kind of thing without landowner permission! In this instance the state of PA. owns the cave since its right on the berm of a state highway. Which means the cave is closed, as are all PA. state owned caves because of the fungus amongus. I'd be willing to bet the state was never notified that there would be a map published of its location. Twice.
As I've said before....some people just have to see their name in print.
What should be learned here is to NOT publish anything without landowner consent!
You mean like the State of PA publishing the map of Tytoona Cave (an NSS preserve) on the same page? Hey, did they get our permission? As for the PA DCNR's wonderful conservation ethic - I've already gotten yelled at on other forums for my opinion of that. I suppose it's just good for them that the caving community doesn't follow their lead in conservation and caver relations.
As for the origin of the print map, both look like they come from karst guidebook authored by Will White, one of the most respected names in speleology. The guidebook, btw, is oft-cited in the literature and well written (as are all Will's things). Of course, once disseminated, the author has very little control over what happens to it.
The cave, btw, is a fun, if very short (20 mins) trip. I believe it was opened in the late 80s by blasting to widen the highway.
John