wyandottecaver wrote:.....a robust healthy organization. The NSS isnt that. It is dying. We have forgotten that we were founded by people who went CAVING and that without CAVING there simply wont be a NSS.....
wyandottecaver wrote:I had a big response too...then decided NZ was right.
The JCKS is a project that will never be widely read by the membership but should be important to the society. Not only does it let us publish science, and gain a voice, but managed correctly it will let us GUIDE scientific inquiries in the directions we want.
wyandottecaver wrote: Unfortunately, you can only support the JCKS as it should be (self supporting is a pipe dream), with a robust healthy organization. The NSS isnt that. It is dying. We have forgotten that we were founded by people who went CAVING and that without CAVING there simply wont be a NSS except for the CBD lawyers and USFWS WNS spokepersons who have joined.
wyandottecaver wrote: I would venture half the people in the NSS would drop without the NEWS. It is basically the only thing the Society does that has a broad, tangible give-back to CAVERS. We can force the JCKS electronic because most members wont miss it. I like electronic options. But I would take my news in print.
hewhocaves wrote:That's a little less than a quarter of our budget, just for printing. You want to know who the biggest beneficiary of the NSS is? The company that prints the News.
hewhocaves wrote:If you go back and look at the books like "Depths of the Earth"........ you will see that the NSS has been as much about science as it has been about fun since day 1. If anything, we've strayed from our roots by distancing ourselves from it.
hewhocaves wrote:Like I opened with, I'm done with this thread. Further comments would only be repetitive and , frankly, I have better ways to occupy my time.
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