amaddox wrote:The Guide to Safe Scouting has changed the section on caving. They've taking a lot out and referred to their Caving Policies document which has also been updated. I think it's a bit clearer and up to date. Thanks to all the folks who made this happen.
So check it out
Guide to Safe Scouting - Caving http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS/gss08.aspx#b
Caving: A Policy Statement and Guidelines on Caving Prepared by the Youth Groups Liaison Committee of the National Speleological Society and the Boy Scouts of America. http://www.caves.org/youth/19-102B.pdf
Any thoughts on these????
The Caving policy and statement is way too negative, and paints all caving as too dangerous an activity for anyone to try.
buddyh wrote:Fantastic, feed back.
Colleges, schools, clubs and other organizations all accept and even require payments to participate in trips into caves similar as cited. Since I lead, Guide the trip it therefore becomes a guided trip.
buddyh wrote:I have challenged other leaders that have pointed to a cave and said have fun. I explain the rules and explain their liabilities. Some head the lesson, some ignore it and others get defensive thinking I am attacking them. When it comes to safety of youth, I defend them as best I can.
Unfortunately I am not rich and can not fully finance caving trips and rock climbing trips with out charging. If I make up half the cost each year, I feel it is worth the burden. The insurance alone cost a bundle and increases every year. I wish the smiles would pay the bills. The smiles do make me richer though.
I think I will ask a few lawyers what what they think. I wish I still knew a judge. Of course with out by a high court any interpretation may not stand and of course as stated earlier the jurisdiction is also important. Another point, the public consensus has weight also. Your opinion is part of the public consensus. That is the nice thing about our court system and government, we the public have a say.
Now somebody else chime in. Any one out there a lawyer of Judge?
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