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Expidition Essentials knee pads

Postby Lava tuber » Jul 8, 2008 8:19 pm

Has any one picked up the knee pads made by Expidition Essentials "Extreme Coverage Knee Pad" http://www.theonlygear.com/products/caving.html let me know how they are
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Re: Expidition Essentials knee pads

Postby Grandpa Caver » Jul 8, 2008 10:06 pm

IMO Fastek buckles and lotsa mud don't always go well together
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Re: Expidition Essentials knee pads

Postby subter » Jul 9, 2008 1:05 pm

Grandpa Caver wrote:IMO Fastek buckles and lotsa mud don't always go well together

on the same note the Swaygo seems to have these types of buckles/snaps and I've never had a problem with it. Looks like a really nice pad.
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Re: Expidition Essentials knee pads

Postby Scott McCrea » Jul 9, 2008 1:34 pm

Actually, Swaygo has stopped using side-release buckles on the pack closures. The mud can be a problem, but the buckles were the most fragile part of the pack. We saw an unacceptable amount of broken buckles and after testing several alternatives, we switched to a "biner closure" around the first of the year. Instead of the buckle, there is now an accessory carabiner, just like the biners on the straps. The biner has proven to be much more durable, easier to work, and more reliable in more conditions.

Back on topic, these pads look nice, but I too wondered about the buckles. BTW, the biggest breaker of buckles... trunk lids and car doors.
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Re: Expidition Essentials knee pads

Postby Grandpa Caver » Jul 9, 2008 6:08 pm

subter wrote:
Grandpa Caver wrote:IMO Fastek buckles and lotsa mud don't always go well together

on the same note the Swaygo seems to have these types of buckles/snaps and I've never had a problem with it. Looks like a really nice pad.


I too have a Swago with no complaint but my kneepads get ground into the mud a heck of a lot more than my pack.
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Re: Expidition Essentials knee pads

Postby Steven Johnson » Jul 10, 2008 12:01 am

Scott McCrea wrote:Actually, Swaygo has stopped using side-release buckles on the pack closures. The mud can be a problem, but the buckles were the most fragile part of the pack. We saw an unacceptable amount of broken buckles and after testing several alternatives, we switched to a "biner closure" around the first of the year. Instead of the buckle, there is now an accessory carabiner, just like the biners on the straps. The biner has proven to be much more durable, easier to work, and more reliable in more conditions.


That's funny... my Swaygo failed in the buckle, but only because a the airport shuttle bus ran over my luggage! (To Swaygo's credit, they repaired it anyway, even though the damage wasn't cave-related...)

I just checked your website and it doesn't show the new biner closure that I can see.
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Re: Expidition Essentials knee pads

Postby ek » Jul 10, 2008 2:07 am

Perhaps the fastex buckles on those kneepads could also be replaced by miniature carabiner closures.
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Re: Expidition Essentials knee pads

Postby adleedy » Jul 10, 2008 6:16 am

my caveralls have the same type of buckle around the knee to hold knee pads in place, After a muddy cave trip, I usually cant get them undone until i take them home and spray em' off real good.

BTW: I noticed the new closure system on some swaygos in Howies tent at speleofest.
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