iam look for a petzl ericn roc for my dad

[hardcorecaver]

please i really want to buy him one.

[NZcaver]

Have you tried the usual on-line vendors like http://www.caves.org/imo or http://www.karstsports.com ? Try typing "Petzl Ecrin Roc" into a search engine.

You could also try http://www.ebay.com for new or used ones. You might have better luck finding it with the correct spelling, though. (Ecrin) It's a good helmet...

[coferj]

I'll do the usual...would definitely recommend that you buy a new one rather than ebay...it's a lottery on ebay, may be good, may not...but you know if you buy a new one, your dad's coconut is safe....

[speloman]

IMO Would be your best bet, or maybe you have a climbing store in your area. Ecrin rock is a great choice I love mine.

[NZcaver]

I'll do the usual...would definitely recommend that you buy a new one rather than ebay...it's a lottery on ebay, may be good, may not...but you know if you buy a new one, your dad's coconut is safe....

Which is why I said new OR used when I mentioned eBay. I consider eBay items from the cautious "buyer be aware" angle, rather than a simply dismissive "buyer beware!" I have often seen brand new Ecrin Roc helmets go on eBay for about $50, which leaves you an extra $30 to spend on a backup light or some other gadget.

I have an Ecrin Roc (part of the Petzl Explorer carbide setup) as a backup helmet, which was bought lightly USED off a nice gentleman at OTR for considerably cheaper than it would cost new. I bought it to be used anyway (if only occasionally), so it didn't bother me at all that someone had already worn it. My current primary caving helmet is a nice HB model, which cost me about $50 at full in-store retail price about 5 years ago. Eastern Mountain Sports then put them on clearance a couple of years later for about $20 each, and I scooped up a couple of spares for me and a bunch for the grotto.

For those who have the time and inclination, I advocate the "shop around" approach - that's all. Good luck! 8)

[NZcaver]

...And on the subject of shopping around, here's an on-line supplier who's selling the Ecrin Roc for $67 (14% cheaper than recommended retail).

http://www.techrescue.biz/xcart/product ... =14&page=1

I've used this company before. They're good people, and pretty reasonable on shipping too...