NZcaver wrote:tncaver wrote: But it is not the gating of this ONE cave that will result from these workshops and that is what worries me.
So you're saying that a bunch of people working on a gating project is OK, but turning it into a workshop might encourage otherwise-normal people to embark on some big cave-gating crusade?
I'm skeptical, but certainly anything is possible.
I never said gating the specific cave mentioned in the workshop link was ok or not ok. I suggested everyone read the EVENTS link and come to their own conclusion.
A certain person from my state went to a cave gating workshop a few years ago. Now that person
states that she has gated 50 caves. I can't verify the number, but I know of several of my state's best caves that are now
more or less permanently gated and inaccessible. Granted, some needed gating, but IMHO, not all. One is so far in the boonies and protected by natural as well as other man made obstacles,that gating seemed totally unjustified IMHO. On top of that, the landowner was PO'd when he received a bill for something that was supposed to be free.
Hopefully every attendee to the cave gating workshop won't become another cave gate welder. But, NZ, are you naive enough to think these workshops do not promote gating caves?
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