WildWolf wrote:
I know cavechat does not like religious vs. evolution debates so be careful how this thread goes.
I don't mean to pick on you, Wildwolf, but this is a classic example of why religious discussions are not appropriate for cavechat. Setting up religion in conflict with evolution is a false argument. If you want valid opposites, choose something like "creationism vs. science". I am personally offended by the insinuation that somehow religion and science are necessarily in conflict; they are two different ways of seeking truth, and there is no reason that they cannot co-exist. Many scientists are deeply religious, yet they have no problem accepting the overwhelming empirical evidence that evolution is a fact, and that the earth is billions of year old. The scientific consensus has been arrived at through dispassionate inquiries by literally hundreds of thousands of independent scientists; the only individuals who try to challenge this consensus are inherently biased toward making the facts fit their pre-established world view based on their particular religious tradition. Starting from the conclusion and trying to make the facts fit is just not how science works.
I have no problem co-existing with those whose religious views lead them to the conclusion that the world is only 6,000 years old, or that evolution doesn't happen. However, those who hold such views should understand that such views are inherently religious, not scientific, in nature, and thus are inappropriate on cavechat.