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Postby Teresa » Apr 14, 2006 6:02 pm

With all due respect zenas, I think there are more than 10 cave species taxonomists worldwide, and most definitely are more than 10 people who can identify cave species.

Many taxonomists have a specialty (say crickets) which includes trogloxenic, troglophilic, troglobitic and phreatobitic genera. So one takes a cave cricket to a cricket specialist, not to a cave biologist, if you think you have a new species.

I can think of three people who have defined new cave species and gotten their namings accepted. Since I am not a biologist, I cannot believe I know 1/3 of the world's total experts on the subject.

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Postby zenas » Apr 14, 2006 6:08 pm

This is exactly the procedure Teresa, they give it to cave species specialists. I asked Dr. Paragamian and he told me there are 8 worldwide (including him). So, it seems there are only 5 more you don't know !
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Postby hewhocaves » Apr 15, 2006 11:59 pm

hi Zenas...

while the pics are great... i was kind of thinking that perhaps the scientific name ought to be given along with the common name. and possibly some idea of the range. I mean, there's no point in looking for something here if the nearest it is is out by you.

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Postby zenas » Apr 21, 2006 3:38 pm

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Postby zenas » Apr 21, 2006 5:03 pm

I need to make some corrections, additions and remarks to the previous messages...

* My apologies Teresa, you were right it was my misunderstanding; after a new contact, Dr. Paragamian informed me that the number of the specialists worldwide is around 100 (approx 10 in Balkans), many americans among the best of them.
* Regarding the photo Dave Bunnell posted to this thread, with the strange thing growing from the floor of Rippled Cave, he told me that it's a root but it's impossible to identify it only from the photo.
* The correct e-mails for anyone interested to contact Dr. Paragamian are: paragam@otenet.gr and hisr@otenet.gr
* I forwarded the hewhocaves request for the scientific name ought to be given along with the common name and here is the response:

Lesser mouse-eared bat [Myotis blythii (Tomes, 1857)]
Distribution: Palaearctic; southern Europe and Asia east to the Himalayas

Schreiber’s bat [Miniopterus schreibersii (Kuhl, 1817)]
Distribution: present in most Old Worls tropical and subtropical regions, from southern Eurasia to Africa, Australia, and the Solomon Islands.

Mehely’s horseshoe bat [Rhinolophus mehelyi Matschie, 1901]
Distribution: North Africa and southern Europe through Asia Minor to Transcaucasia and western Iran.

Troglobitic snail [Lindbergia pseudoillyrica Riedel, 1960]
Distribution: Crete Island (Greece)

Cave spider [Minotauria attemsi Kulczynski, 1903]
Distribution: Crete Island (Greece)

Scorpion [Euscorpius carpathicus (Linnaeus, 1763)]
Distribution: Africa (Egypt, Libya, Madeira, Tunisia), Asia (Turkey), Europe (Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Czech Republic, Greece, France, Hungary, Italy, Macedonia, Malta, Monaco, Romania, San Marino, Slovenia, Spain (including Baleares), Turkey, Ukraine, Yugoslavia).

Long-legged cave cricket [Dolichopoda paraskevi Boudou-Saltet, 1973]
Distribution: Crete Island (Greece)

Cave cricket [Discoptila lindbergi Chopard, 1957]
Distribution: Crete Island (Greece)

Troglobitic milliped [Serradium sbordonii Strasser, 1976]
Distribution: Crete (Greece)

Troglobitic woodlouse [Schizidium perplexum (Vandel, 1958)]
Distribution: Crete (Greece)

Many-plumed moth Moth [Alucita hexadactyla Linnaeus, 1758]
Distribution: Almost worldwide
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Postby Squirrel Girl » Apr 21, 2006 7:52 pm

Thanks, Zenas, for all your contributions to Cavechat. And thanks for correcting your mistakes.

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