as this has turned into what it has i have a landowner story........jim and marion smith gerald and i were exploring this deep pit that one of those first three guys had found...perty sure it was jim and jill on a massive ridgewalk
....we parked up on the main highway and hiked into the area of the pit which was below where we parked.........we found it in the middle of no where................we deadended the cave and i don't remember who exited first but they yelled back down the pit that there was an unusual situation at the entrance.......it seems that a pair of brothers owned and lived near the pit we were exploring.......upon exiting to two shotgun armed reds who were real interested in exactly what we were finding in that cave........i told them it was the adventure of exploration and they decided after forcing us to dump our cave packs out and they then went thru everything and ended up deciding that we were taking the magnetic needles on the one compass we had with us out of the cave....thats right stealing something they couldn't possibly understand.............because of that it was possible but it took a while before they believed us finally and we settled our difference amicably........after that we bought them some groceries and later when we camped near their house we would surprise them with treats........