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So what's the oldest signature in a cave that you have seen?

Postby Caving Guru » Mar 23, 2015 6:30 pm

So what's the oldest dated signature that you have seen in a cave and which cave did you see it in?

For me it is probably the 1897 signature in Rupert's Cave in Pennsylvania.
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Postby caver.adam » Mar 23, 2015 9:47 pm

Do fossilized animal footprints count?
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Postby GroundquestMSA » Mar 23, 2015 10:02 pm

The oldest legible signature around here is one from 1864 found in Preston Cave III. I suspect that some local markings are significantly older, and at least one cave contains etchings assumed to have been made by native Americans. Easily visible dates from the 1880s are present in quite a few small southern Ohio caves.
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Postby Chads93GT » Mar 23, 2015 10:18 pm

Oh, easily the signature I found of Jessee James from 1792........................
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Postby Caving Guru » Mar 23, 2015 10:53 pm

Chads93GT wrote:Oh, easily the signature I found of Jessee James from 1792........................


So where did you find that signature, Chad?
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Postby graveleye » Mar 24, 2015 7:47 am

1858 is the oldest I have seen.
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Re: So what's the oldest signature in a cave that you have s

Postby Chads93GT » Mar 24, 2015 8:32 am

Caving Guru wrote:
Chads93GT wrote:Oh, easily the signature I found of Jessee James from 1792........................


So where did you find that signature, Chad?


In a cave loaded with bear claw marks in Ste. Genevieve County, MO. Obviously the kid who carved it into the wall in there failed history class. He was only a few decades ahead...............lol.
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Postby tncaver » Mar 24, 2015 11:28 am

1811 in a TN cave.
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Postby BrianFrank » Mar 24, 2015 2:30 pm

CLASS OF 2015 in blue spray paint in Howards Waterfall Cave:-)
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Postby chac » Mar 24, 2015 3:00 pm

Maya petroglyphs in MesoAmerican caves. I am not sure if the graffiti artist's signature was included. I know for a fact that it wasn't Banksy! :waving:
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Re: So what's the oldest signature in a cave that you have s

Postby ohiocaver » Mar 24, 2015 5:26 pm

The most FAMOUS one I've seen probably is Irene Ryan's signature on a wall in Mammoth Cave (she was Grandma on the "Beverly Hillbillies" for trivia buffs). I think it is dated 1929ish...which would make her 27 years old at the time. She already was known as an actress. This was done before Mammoth became a National Park in 1941. And I know there are signatures from folks like R. Stebbins and Mary Coxe that date to 1850.
My favorite (and someone can supply accurate names) is a cave in Kentucky near an important Civil War battlefield where there are names like Johnny Reb CSA written on the wall from 1862 and carved over Johnny Reb's signature are some names like Billy Yankee, 3rd Ohio, US Cavalry. Obviously, men from both sides found and explored the cave.
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Re: So what's the oldest signature in a cave that you have s

Postby ohiocaver » Mar 24, 2015 5:41 pm

Check that - the oldest (historic) signature I've seen would be the Geo. Washington signature (yes, it was real) in the cave of the same name near Harpers Ferry, WV. Unfortunately, it has been totally defaced by local high schoolers since I first saw it in the 70s.
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Postby graveleye » Mar 25, 2015 7:31 am

BrianFrank wrote:CLASS OF 2015 in blue spray paint in Howards Waterfall Cave:-)


crap. Did you tell the preserve manager?
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Re: So what's the oldest signature in a cave that you have s

Postby MUD » Mar 25, 2015 7:55 am

Caving Guru wrote:So what's the oldest dated signature that you have seen in a cave and which cave did you see it in?

For me it is probably the 1897 signature in Rupert's Cave in Pennsylvania.


Where did you see this signature Guru? There's a 1872 date in the Ballroom and I found a 1851 date near the keyhole recently.

ohiocaver wrote:Check that - the oldest (historic) signature I've seen would be the Geo. Washington signature (yes, it was real) in the cave of the same name near Harpers Ferry, WV. Unfortunately, it has been totally defaced by local high schoolers since I first saw it in the 70s.


I too have seen this signature first hand and have a picture of it. The cave was in pretty good shape when I was there circa 1984ish. It would be a shame for this historical signature to be ruined by the ignorant!
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Re: So what's the oldest signature in a cave that you have s

Postby Caving Guru » Mar 25, 2015 9:09 am

I don't know exactly where the 1897 date is in the cave but I think it was near the entrance.
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